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My tank is finally clear!

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By guppylover427
from the guppylover427 department, Section Diaries
Posted on Tue Jan 22, 2008 at 06:51:06 PM PST
After 6 months, I can see through my tank again!



It all turned out to be a MASSIVE algae bloom. My mom got me some algae clear that said it would rid us of our green water (I really didn't have much confidence in it, but it worked!) Not only has is worked, but it worked FAST. Less than an hour after I put it in, the water became super clear, this morning, crystal clear! It's nice to be able to see the fish again. I can't believe all that was algae, and no matter how much cleaning or water changes I performed, the water would always cloud right back up. And I'm telling ya, I couldn't even see to the other side of that tank! Nor could I see my hand if I stuck right up front. It's definately a change for me, becuase I haven't been able to see through my tank for the past 6 months or so. Woo, that's fantastic! I started jumping up and down when I saw the water had cleared up significantly. Well, that's my announcement. Have a good day everyone!
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My tank is finally clear! | 4 comments (4 topical, 0 hidden)
Re: well done! (none / 0) (#3)
by guppylover427 on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 05:01:42 PM PST

Well, it was white at first (that was the huge ammonia spike) But it wasn't until the next few months that it actually turned green. Because a few months earlier, it was white. When I treated it, it looked like green jelly (of course it wasn't jelly though.). I gave it a vacume this last weekend, and there was green stuff coming out of the gravel. It's so nice to be able to see through my tank! The fish seem to be enjoying seeing out too:)
What? Were you expecting something funny?


Again, that was well done. :) You've probably (none / 0) (#4)
by unclescott on Thu Jan 31, 2008 at 02:53:43 AM PST

figured this out, but...

The white bacterial bloom was in a sense one of nature's possible efforts to cope with the extra ammonia in the water. I suppose in a way, the greenwater was a way of coping with the bacteria, in that the protists (or Daphnia in different systems maybe) ate most of the bacteria.

By causing the greenwater to coagulate and drop out of the water, a lot of nutrients were removed from the water column. By siphoning the green goo out, you kept a lot of the nutrients from getting back into that water column. The nitrogen cycle, by now well developed, scarfed up the extra tidbits.

Skimmed a magazine article yesterday. The bit about aquariums not only being places for living creatures but also being living systems themselves, jumped out at me. That sort of reference is becoming more common. The whole tank can be seen as a sort of ecology or ecological system. And whatever purchased filter we have in there is just a part of the larger biofilter which equals the entire aquarium.

And you did a slick job of cleaning that filter. :)

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Re: My tank is finally clear! (none / 0) (#1)
by guppyfreak456 on Wed Jan 23, 2008 at 07:56:55 PM PST

Looks great!!!



Well done! (none / 0) (#2)
by unclescott on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 06:17:55 PM PST

However you had said the water was cloudy. I mistakenly thought of "unclear" as "whitish" or "gray". That is usually a bacterial bloom.

The mobile creatures that make up greenwater, as you might have noticed in Immediate Help, are NOT algae. Usually they are classified in their own kingdom and called protists. (US biology Textbooks will speak of the kingdom Protoctista. UK texts call them Protista.) There evidently have been several proposed schemes for sorting out living things into different kingdoms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_(biology)

A lot of commentators and books still say greenwater is algae, but too many of them also recommend floating new fish in their bag for 20 minutes and emptying everything into the tank w/o quarantine. So they may be 50 or 100 years out dated. ;)

There are a surprising number of creatures with chloroplasts in them. Among others in and on reefs, some corals and anemones have chlorophyll. I think some freshwater hydras do too.

"Greenwater (take a 10X or 30X kiddie microscope and check it out) is a mixed bunch of stuff, often protists like Euglena and Paramecium. They tend to feed on even smaller zooplankton and phytoplankton, but the green in the water is at least in part because even though they move around, they also have chlorophyll cells which show green..." when they are numerous enough. They are virtually always in aquariums. http://www.guppylog.com/story/2003/8/3/14145/91568

About 4.5 years ago Scott Lockwood was doing militant water changes and the water (thriving upon the new minerals and cleaner water) got even greener. Had you mentioned that the cloud was green, you would have gotten different advice.

As for Scott, he got rid of it. I don't think that he even had to cut down the light by either just not leaving the aquarium light on so long and/or  by pulling the shade on the window which let in sunlight in the afternoon. He did go to work with a gravel vacuum and found the spot lush with nutritious mulm (organic muck on the bottom) and took that out. The green water starved for lack of  nutrients.

Your treatment probably poisoned those tiny protists and then there was a coagulant in that solution, which bunched the dying or dead protists into larger clumps and they dropped to the bottom. (We've talked about flocculation before.)

And sometimes greenwater will just crash on its own and fall to the bottom of the tank. Both when there are crashes (ironically maybe because of not enough water changes) or when it is treated as you have treated it, then you want to vac that off of the bottom of the aquarium and get much of it out before it rots too much.

In fact, if one wants to spend a lot of money, they can get a UV sterilizer and run the water through it. An article on somehow using ultrasound to kill those members of the protist kingdom also is floating around. And I would still "sweep the floor." :)

Companies making pond and aquarium products usually use less dangerous poisons than in the past, but you also want to dilute that so that it causes your fish no harm.

You might look to see if sun light is hitting the tank at sometime in the day. Sun angles are so different in the winter that sometimes we are surprised that the tank is getting so much. Simply pull the shade before going to school or work.

In The Swim Algae Clear is made by a company in West Chicago, about 35 miles west of Chicago and maybe 55 miles from me. Their web site doesn't say what is in their product. I suppose I could call them up and inquire, but vacuuming your tank is probably sufficient.

20-30 years ago, Simazine was used a lot in algaecides. It is listed as a General Use Pesticide - or abbreviated GUP! An article by a guy in FAMA (Fresh Water and Marine Aquarium Magazine) demonstrated how if it was left in his cichlid tank, a number of the fry would be pretty badly deformed. Sadly that stuff is still used some, but there has been some effort to rid of products like that in the aquarium business.

I've been away for several days or would have responded before this. Glad your aquarium is looking better!


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