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Edward's tail is all torn up.

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By guppylover427
from the guppylover427 department, Section Diaries
Posted on Tue Sep 18, 2007 at 08:49:26 PM PST
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Edward's tail is torn up.



I decided to take him out and stick him in the fry tank to recover. I'm just being cautious because I had a female whose tail was nipped at once, but for some stupid reason I thought it wouldn't happen again. But guess what? It did and she died (she didn't look well anyways I guess). This happens every once in a while, someone's tail will end up half eaten or torn up (suspiciously never happens to the gouramis, ballon mollies, or betta...) I'm happy that it should grow back in a while. He's doing much better with his kids (all too big for him to eat) and it looks like he's getting somewhere with his bigger daughters. I'm waiting on nature to grow his tail, but if there's a better way on preventing nipped tails or growing them back, I'd like to know.
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Edward's tail is all torn up. | 4 comments (4 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Edward's tail is all torn up. (none / 0) (#4)
by guppylover427 on Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 08:16:09 PM PST

I know that barbs aren't a good mixture with guppies, especially of they're not in schools. But you see, my barbs were there even before the 10 gallon. They were my original fish from the bowl-days. After getting serious with gupy breeding (sorta anyway) I realized I was making a mistake mixing barbs and guppies. After getting the 10 gallon, I also got a little 2 gallong arquarium for Christmas. The barbs went in the 2 gallon, and guppies and other livebearers went in the 10 gallon. That was my plan anyway. Unfortunetly, the 2 gallong had a cheap filter, that hardly cleaned the water or circulate the tank. I could't bear to watch the barbs suffer, even with water changes, the water was becoming stilled and dirty. That's when I added the barbs to the 10 gallon, everyone got along fine, nobody got nipped fins when they were in the 10 gallon. But soon after recieving a 30 gallon tank for my birthday, I thought: hey, now the 10 gallon can be a fry tank, can't keep barbs in the fry tank! And thats the only reason my barbs are in my 30 gallon (the gold barb is like, 5 years old!) I'm sorry for making these stupid mistakes, I know it isn't right to keep these kinds of fish together, but they won't die!! (And I love them...) But that is a note to make! After these barbs die off or something, no more barbs! Sorry for making this more difficult than it should:)
What? Were you expecting something funny?


Re: Edward's tail is all torn up. (none / 0) (#2)
by guppylover427 on Thu Sep 20, 2007 at 05:51:55 PM PST

I don't think it was the water or the Betta. Because my Betta is quite shy, and I have never seen him bother any of my fish EVER. I've been doing plenty of water changes, and i've had this happen before with my females. My #1 suspects are the rosy barb (he gets real nippy sometimes, especially if you get him excited.), and the gold barb (he doesn't mess around when it comes to feeding time!). This is just an out of the blue question, but, my fish seem to have become afraid of me. (I think it has something to do with me netting out a few guppies the other day.)
What? Were you expecting something funny?


if there's a better way on preventing nipped (none / 0) (#1)
by unclescott on Wed Sep 19, 2007 at 05:45:13 AM PST

tails...

Move the Betta. :) Or at least float a jar in the tank, the Betta in the jar.

Observe the others and see if there is any other intramural strife. Sometimes standard assumptions like that one about the Betta are wrong.

Also, I have to ask myself if there is a tattered tail, "Is the damage because of a tank mate or water quality?"

Not trying to cast aspersions on you. Or if I am, they are the same ones I would ask myself about. ;)

Gotta go do partial water changes... :)



Ahhhhh! You didn't mention barbs! If you (none / 0) (#3)
by unclescott on Fri Sep 21, 2007 at 03:53:13 AM PST

Google GL for barbs and guppies you will see that they are a no-no. They are a little better "behaved" in schools of six or more, as are most schooling fish, because they are both interacting with their own kind, enjoying the schooling and watching their tails that they don't get nibbled by their compatriots. ;)

If you don't provide all of the data you can on an aquarium, you make adequate answering impossible.

In a sense, keeping a schooling fish by itself is cruel. Of course if you get schools of those fish and put them in a 10-gallon, in time that may be cruel too.

Your Betta may be keeping to himself because he knows it could be only a matter of time before his fins get butchered. Bettas are usually not a good idea with guppies. Barbs virtually never are. Those last two aren't with each other either.

Did you do a little book browsing or Googling of Guppylog or the Net for guppies and barbs or guppies and Bettas?

Putting incompatible fish together is a rookie mistake. You should be growing beyond that level. You certainly have heard people suggest that one should never buy a new fish until that fish has been checked out for physical needs, behavior, routine care, food, social needs and eventual size. :)

By the way, if you took the barbs away, the male Betta might be ok with the guppies. (He will "love" the fry.) Then again, maybe not. When you say that you have never, ever seem the male chase a guppy, have you watched him 24/7? ;)

A last point which is really administrivia: please answer a comment after the statement. If you answer just any place, the flow of the thread gets pretty strange, people get bored and go away.

Thanks and all the best!

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