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So no more livebearers for me....

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By aurorahorse, Section Diaries
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:42:33 PM PST
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I haven't posted here in a while because I have given up on livebearers.



First, I tried guppies...they died off. Then platies...I was doing well until I bought some more to put some more bloodlines in. Yes, I quarantined them. A month or so or something later, they started up with Columnaris. I tried salt baths and I tried Maracyn. I gave up...I think it's something about this area and livebearers. It's difficult to find healthy ones (shouldn't be, as I live in a city of 250k, but only 3 pet shops besides Petsmart and Petco and Wal-Mart). I'm on to tetras and danios now...but I might still stop in once in a while. Thanks for everyone's help. :)
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So no more livebearers for me.... | 4 comments (4 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: So no more livebearers for me.... (none / 0) (#3)
by New Guppy Momma on Sun May 13, 2007 at 08:34:29 PM PST

Just an idea but try giving a Walmart trio a try. Mine did surpeizingly very well. Two of my original males are still around. They're probably close to 2 years old now. I also have a couple of my original batch of 13 fry and have once again seperated males and females to prevent overpopulating my tanks. I also have a trio of Swordtails and one of mollies. I am noticing baby swordtails swimming around for the last 2 weeks. And I've had the adults for at least 3 months.

So get a trio or 1 prego female and let her be in a decent size tank and see what happens. I started with 6 guppies and have probably had several hundred come and go. Some fry have ended up as snacks but that's life. What I've been left with are 3 tanks of really healthy fish.

Good luck tho with your new venture.
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)



Re: So no more livebearers for me.... (none / 0) (#2)
by guppylover427 on Sun May 13, 2007 at 03:33:17 PM PST

I agree. When I first began guppy breeding, my guppies were dying left and right. I just about quited there, but when I got a hold of some fry, I certainly didn't want to stop! But yeah, if you really think you're just not cut out to breed livebearers it's your choice. Good luck on your tetras and danios! Maybe you're more of an egglayer type of breeder:)
What? Were you expecting something funny?


Re: So no more livebearers for me.... (none / 0) (#1)
by The Q man on Fri May 11, 2007 at 05:37:59 PM PST

 Please don't give up. Yes, at first it is frustrating. But, it just takes time. If everyone quit when the going got tuff just think where we would be today. Do you think as cave men they quit avoider their predators? No, and if they did there would be no such thing as people. What would it be like if cars were to hard to make so we quit. Or farms, or a ciciety. We would still be a bunch of hairy naked cavemen running around wondering if were going to find something to eat today (if we didn't quit looking for food). I adivse that you read the immediate help for newbies and give it another try. I've had my guppy for over 2 years. And he was probably a year when I got him. He may as well be over three years old. But, if you don't want to keep live bearers that's fine. It's a personal decision that I have no say in. But, advice for life is don't quit just because you hitt a roughf patch. It happens not just with fish. With life in general. You see my point? Hope you do. Anyway enjoy your danios and tetras. They are interesting fish too.



If you try livebearers again, please (none / 0) (#4)
by unclescott on Mon May 14, 2007 at 03:50:16 AM PST

quarantine and treat for Camallanus. I don't know why, but livebearers are quite vulnerable to internal worms and external worms such as gill flukes. Maybe it is the nature of farming them which puts them into close proximity with these wee beasties.

When I brought back several fish native to Missouri under permit last fall, I treated for the usual set of stuff I have encountered or heard about and still had all sorts of difficulty with anchor worms, which were new to me. The anthelmintic used by me wasn't effective against them. Furthermore one treatment with Praziquantel, which is effective against those parasites, evidently didn't get the eggs. Early stages of that parasite infest gills and we don't see them there. There were more losses a month or two later until a few prolonged treatment seems to have gotten those in gills and more developed individuals which had grown to the (much more visible) skin parasite.

I'm glad that your tetras and others don't seem as prone to diseases. It seems that you have been here somewhere around three years and are still trying.

I have strains of livebearers that have plugged along for a decade. There was one new batch of fancy guppies which lived for some months and yet, despite a pretty fair preventative treatment process in quarantine, died without issue. They may just have been too old when I was given them, but it makes one wonder if internal parasites had previously sterilized them. Until the last couple of years I have never had guppies which didn't drop, if they were here for a month.

I have had better luck with wild killies than wild livebearers, but even there many hobbyists will agree that hobbyist raised killies are hardier than the wild stuff (which one needs to spawn and save eggs ASAP).

I wonder if the many tetra types which are spawned by commercial sources are more often raised indoors. That would somewhat separate them from birds, plants and snails which can be vectors (carriers) for parasites.

The aquarium hobby offers us access to more fishes than ever before. On the other hand, faster transportation and international movement of fishes from different areas has also allowa fish diseases to get carried more widely (in captive and even in wild fishes) than ever before.

This can be an issue for people as well. A few years ago, there was a blood drive where I taught and I found time to pull out my donor card and amble down to the room where the drive was held. The medical tech I was assigned to was quite widely traveled. Only two weeks before, he had been assisting in blood drives in Calcutta, India!

In colonial Virginia, about 1620 (about my freshman year), malaria in migrants and malaria spreading mosquitoes (in the ships' ballast water?) began to be spread from Europeans and Africans to Native Americans. (Those diseases and the lifestyle were tough enough on the immigrants, who had an 80% mortality rate over 20 years.) Old world diseases were even more devastating on the original residents. Today we step off of airplanes and bounce things like West Nile virus and St. Louis encephalitis all over the place.

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