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Unusual Behaviour or not???

Behavior
By JessicaGregory
from the Jessica G department, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:34:00 PM PST
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Good afternoon. First of all thanks for such a good site. As an extreme novice you've all answered a lot of my daft questions already.
I have scoured this site in the vain hope of finding an answer to this behavioural question and hope I'm not wasting anyones time as you've answered this question before however.... ( no its not about Guppy pregnancy)



I am new to keeping fish, not just Guppy's but all fish, although its the Guppy's causing concern. I have 4 Guppies that I've owned for a week now. 2 boys and 2 girls. (We did have 3 boys but one seems to have disappeared????!!!) One of the females is acting a little strange. She will sit at the bottom of the tank with her front fins twitching quite fast as normal but with little tail movement and she cannot be coaxed to move at all. She created a little hollow for herself away from the others and it appears that she's in a sulk. She did this on day 2 of the week and I was worried she was dying as she wouldn't move even when the fish were fed or when other fish invaded her personal space.
I came to this site and trawled through for explanation. Ironically, and after 3 long hours of research when I looked into the tank again she was happily swimming with the others like nothing was wrong! All was well until today when she's begun to do the same thing at the bottom of the tank barely moving. Is this normal behaviour? Should I be alarmed? None of the other 3 do anything like this. My other female does spend lots of time on her own near the plants in the tank but as she's fat and has a black spot underneath near her tail I'm assuming she's pregnant ( read it here). If anyone can shed any light on this or has experienced similar can you let me know. Many thanks......
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i've had similar... (none / 0) (#3)
by Nancy5Fishes on Sat Feb 03, 2007 at 11:56:17 AM PST

i've had similar behavior in a dwarf platy female. i had had her..oh, i guess just under a week when she started acting very strange. it would seem as though she had lost control of her swim baldder (the organ that controls a fish's buoyancy). she really couldn't control her direction or depth, and she took to sitting on the bottom. i honestly thought she was in labor that night, but when i looked in the morning, she was perfectly normal and there were no fry.

   unfortunately, 2 days later, i found her abruptly dead. fortunately, none of my other fish ever followed suit.



Re: Unusual Behaviour or not??? (none / 0) (#1)
by New Guppy Momma on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 08:08:01 AM PST

First of all go do a 25% water change with seasoned treated water.

When that's done check out the 20 questions in Immediate Help. When they ahve been answered we know more about your tank and water conditions.

My first guess would be she may be dropping fry. Or you have too many males for the amount of females. Or she could just be in a sulky mood. Think she's female. We all get that way once in a while.
She could also be "sleeping". Guppies really don't sleep. It's more like resting on the bottom or the top.
Do you add any aquarium salt to the water? If not try 1 tbsp to every 10 gallons (15ml per 40L). NOT TABLE SALT.

Goodluck and keep us posted.
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)



Jessica, if your aquarium is only a week old, (none / 0) (#2)
by unclescott on Thu Feb 01, 2007 at 12:38:30 PM PST

it has just begun to go through the development of that grueling process called the development of the nitrogen cycle. If you have a filter on the tank, rinse and put some activated carbon in there (in a bag or whatever) to lower the level of ammonia in the water.

Please read about cycling aquariums in the second section of Immediate Help. Google Nitrogen Cycle for a second set of opinions. We don't want too many fish to start that process or we will kill some off.

Your situation is sounds a bit similar to the log submitted just after yours - Unusual Behaviour or not???

I fear the issues there are related. Have you done a partial water change this week? Was the water treated before hand. Is it the same temperature as that of the tank. Do you have water containers and space to let the water sit at least a day (a week is better but maybe unrealistic)? See my comments on what can be done in a hurry in the unusual behavior comments.

Sometimes it is because new aquarists are suffering from information overload, sometimes because the fish seller neglected to mention several important elements of establishing an aquarium. But (and if you are already familiar with these things, I apologize for wasting your time) you need to know what the nitrogen cycle is all about. Even though it will slow down the cycling of the tank, you need to know that partial (at least weekly) water changes will keep the ammonia and nitrite spikes and eventual nitrate accumulation from becoming too stressful (ie toxic) for your fish.

And if they didn't tell you, it really is wise to have test kits for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates. New aquarists can go find and play with other test kits later in the hobby, but testing for those items should be an important part of what a newbie does. If buying test kits is a hardship now, see if the shop will test water for their customers. (Of course in time the gasoline spend driving to the shop may cost more than the test kits, but it may be a good stop-gap strategy.)

Another costly item which is often ignored, in addition to testing, is a quarantine tank. Since an awful lot of the fish from a shop will be diseased, a $40 quarantine tank (10-gallon tank with an airstone run by the air pump running your other filter - tap its airline with an adjustable valve or t-valve. thin layer of gravel, plastic plant or two, submersible heater and glass top) will cost you less than what you will otherwise lose from the first two or three times you just introduce new fish into your aquarium.

As Australian physician and fish head Bruce Hansen has suggested, the quarantine tank is for the benefit of the fish in the regular aquarium. It is so if the new fish are diseased and die, they will not take everybody out in the established aquarium. If the new fish get sick and can be successfully treated, wonderful. But the odds of effectively treating columnaris (for instance) are very slim. Better to lose the new purchase than old friends.

Those observations about quarantine tanks sound a little harsh. But that is better than losing all of your fish, getting really frustrated and dumping the tank out on garbage pick up day in a few weeks.

Now, I'll shut up and maybe we can both get off-line and try do do some water changes and/or tests. :)

Good luck and all the best!

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