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By ballerina, Section Diaries
Posted on Wed Dec 26, 2007 at 02:22:23 PM PST
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So my friend had some goldfish. Long story short, they all died. They had bought a HUGE thing of goldfish food. So this brings us to my question....



Can I feed my guppies and molly goldfish food? So this giant container has been sitting by my aquarium and I've kinda just been ignoring it, but now I'm almost out of tropical food. Before I go and spend my money on tropical food, I want to know if I would kill my fish by feeding them goldfish food. Thanks in advance!

P.S. Sorry it's been so long, I've been busy, but I still think about guppylog all the time!

I hope you all had a very merry Christmas yesterday too!

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Feeding Helps | 5 comments (5 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Feeding Helps (none / 0) (#1)
by MollieGuppy on Wed Dec 26, 2007 at 02:49:49 PM PST

All in all, The main ingredients in fish food are the same, However there are a few key nutrients and dietary requirements which are targeted at a certain type of fish, This wont do any harm in the short term, but its likely to have a long term affect. I wouldn't recommend it unless you desperately had to, and even then it would only be for a couple of days.

Think of it this way, you cant count on it providing nutrients for your fish, so all you can count it on doing is filling them up. A bit like if a turtle swallowed a carrier bag, they feel full, cannot pass the carrier bag, And eventually die of starvation.

So feeding them goldfish food isn't going to do them any good and should be avoided. I hope this information helps you and your fish :D

All the best
Mollieguppy



Goldfish have the enzymes (in quantity) (none / 0) (#2)
by unclescott on Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 05:08:06 AM PST

to digest starches. I think that is true of carps as well. That gives them a big advantage is using food sources which most fish can not very well use. "They" put starchy things (prolly the white flakes) in goldfish food.

I know I wish January would roll around because I need a check coming then. (The wolf was at our door, so we roasted it.) If I'm short of a certain kind of fish food, I'm absolutely sure I might even try veggie flakes with my carnivores if other foods were in short supply. ;) After vacations herbivores may devour bite sized tank mates, guppies may serious forage in the hair algae and plants may be a bit tattered in that tank with the one big predator, so the fish themselves will improvise if need be.

However in time your guppies are passing a lot of those starches through their systems. I'm sure bacterial colonies will develop to use the carbs but then you might have a cloudy effect from them. That may mean more partial water changes (arrrrrrgh!). So you and your fish are best served using them for more no more than the short term. :)

You had a zillion question last year and it really kept us hopping. That was a lot of fun. Glad to hear that you are still keeping guppies and mollies.

If your friends went through goldfish pretty fast, you might discreetly ask them if their tank had cycled. I think that Angelhologram's fish-less cycling article is still available here.

Goldfish are poop machines. They also bulk a lot more than most aquarium fish, which we commonly begin with. Larger aquariums should probably be used with even young ones and a few good sized adults would appreciate something like a 55-gallon aquarium, if they get over that crucial early period and are on the way to a life expectancy of 25.

Lastly, and I realize that this is more for those looking on because you probably know this, it is popular to try one's hand with those inexpensive feeder goldfish, but they tend to be floating museums of parasites. I would get a commercial broad spectrum anti-parasite treatment and treat them during that first quarantine period. Otherwise there might not be any other period when they are kept.

I've heard some keepers of large predators even consider such a treatment regimen for their feeders. Why should they infect their regular pets with stuff like Camallanus or in the case of feeders like goldfish, especially with tape worms? Why would they want to suck on a water siphon hose knowing of the likelihood of such things swimming around in their aquarium! :0

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Re: Goldfish have the enzymes (in quantity) (none / 0) (#3)
by ballerina on Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 04:00:32 PM PST

Sorry uncle scott, but i don't think you really answered my question! NO offense, but all the times I read it, I didn't really get what you were saying.
Now some answers

I know my friend did not cycle her tank.... she did not have a tank. They were kept in a goldfish bowl. I don't know if she did water changes, but I don't think it mattered, because they were dead within a few days.
I'm sorry for all of my questions last year, and will try to be less obnoxious! ;)
Thanks!

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Re: Goldfish have the enzymes (in quantity) (none / 0) (#4)
by MollieGuppy on Thu Dec 27, 2007 at 05:12:20 PM PST

 Goldfish have the enzymes (in quantity) to digest starches. so "They" put starchy things in goldfish food.

However in the long run your guppies will be passing a lot of those starches through their systems (Because they cant digest all of them).

I'm sure bacterial colonies will develop to use the excess nutrients in what they excrete and you then might have cloudy water as a result of the bacterial colonies.

That will meen more partial water changes (arrrrrrgh!). So you and your fish are best to not use them, and if you do only for the short term.

Your key is in the end sentence, Dont use it, and if you do, Dont use it long term.

All the best
MollieGuppy

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Thank you Molly-Guppy. Guess yesterday (none / 0) (#5)
by unclescott on Fri Dec 28, 2007 at 06:55:26 AM PST

wasn't the day for clear expression. Maybe you can be my chief interpretor, at least until the PM or some President needs a press secretary. ;)

"I'm sorry for all of my questions last year, and will try to be less obnoxious!"

Oh no! That's not what I was driving at!!!! (Speaking of another failure to communicate.)

Ballerina, my comment on that was typed with a smile and gratitude. Questions and comparing notes are a huge part of what makes Guppylog go. Sharing experiences and making observations, things which often were brought to mind by what someone else says are other products owing a lot to questioners like you. (It also takes a fair amount of courage to get on a site and make inquiries.)

Your enthusiasm and questioning mind, the delight in guppies and fish of many of us and the need for all of us to learn more about the aquarists' craft are exactly what Guppylog needs more of.

No enthusiasm, no questions, then no Guppylog. :(

So please be patient in getting on the site and please, please, please keep firing away. :)

And thank you again!
unc

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