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Breeding
By felix
from the Felix department, Section Diaries
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 01:23:45 PM PST
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Read this diary entry to give me some recommendations, please. :)



One of my female guppies had fry last night and continues to this morning, about 25 so far! YAAAY! The problem was she was in the community tank. So I stripped the tank of plants, and the gravel remains. The adult fish in the community tank are in a large isolation chamber (about 1 gallon for 3 females, 1 male)
The fry are VERY healthy looking, and so tiny.

Now....

My question is what should I do with all the fish. Here are my current specs:

One five gallon aquarium full of fry and gravel, with filter. Water temperature is ~72 degrees (F).

Another five gallon aquarium, presently housing 3 male guppies, and one betta. (They all get along great! :) ) Water temp ~70 degrees

One empty one gallon aquarium that has undergravel filter thing and airstone.

So my question is what should I do about moving everyone? Should I just leave the fry alone with the gravel? Or should I move the fry to a bare bottom 5 gallon aquarium with artificial plants with a filter or what?

What are your recommendations?

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Fry Recommendations | 8 comments (8 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Fry Recommendations (none / 0) (#1)
by felix on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 06:33:30 PM PST

Anyone got comments??




Re: Fry Recommendations (none / 0) (#2)
by New Guppy Momma on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 06:53:32 PM PST

I kept my first batch of fry in a 1 gallon for the first 3 weeks of their lives. I changed most of the water everyday tho. It too had an undergravel filter and an airstone.
Or you can leave them where they are, put lots of plants in (I use plastic ones) and let the big fish back in. Feed the entire tank several times a day and most of your fry should survive. That's what I've been doing for the last 4 months. Right now we are waiting for a drop from each of my girls. I have 2 that have been with the males. It's been almost 4 months since seperation. I've been seeing 20-30 fry survive from each drop. Also I have only had one or two from each batch get sucked up the filter intake.

Just remember if you save every fry in another month you will have more than you ever thought you would have. There is a reason why they are called "Million's Fish". Good luck.
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)
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Re: Fry Recommendations (none / 0) (#3)
by felix on Wed Jun 07, 2006 at 07:32:49 PM PST

Your comment is appreciated.

Did you have gravel in the one gallon tank?

unclescott, got any ideas about this?

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Re: Fry Recommendations (none / 0) (#5)
by New Guppy Momma on Thu Jun 08, 2006 at 09:58:14 AM PST

The tank had about 1 lb of gravel in it and 2 small plastic plants. Like Miskairal says in the post below mine, If you try to save every fry you will definately be over run. Just put everyone together and plants in the tank and the smartest fastest fry will survive. You may not get too many from each drop but soon you will have more than enough. Remember the females have babies every 4 weeks. Regardless of if they were with a male. Up until 6 months or so of seperation.
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)
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Re: Fry Recommendations (none / 0) (#6)
by felix on Thu Jun 08, 2006 at 10:58:28 AM PST

Since this is my first drop since a mystery disease killed all of my favorite guppies. I wanted to save all I could from this drop and tone it down in the future.

All I need to know is should I remove the gravel from the (former) community tank where the fry are now?

and here are the plans...

Plan 1- Move guppy fry to one gallon tank with gravel. Re-establish community tank.

Plan 2- Leave guppy fry in 5 gallon (former community tank), make other 5 gallon tank new community tank (its currently housing 2 males.
Make one gallon a quarentine tank for future use.

And what should I put in a fry tank if that is what I should do? Plants, gravel, what?

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Re: Fry Recommendations (none / 0) (#7)
by New Guppy Momma on Fri Jun 09, 2006 at 06:41:12 AM PST

I'd go with plan 2 if you have the space and finances. Leave the tank just how it is. Gravel won't hurt the fry. Just be careful for the first couple gravel vaccums. And check the dump bucket before you dump it. I've found many a fry who loves the excitement of surfing the vaccum tube. Also plants will provide a surface for microscopic foods. My fry and other fish like to pick at the plants and see what they can find to eat. Good luck and hope you have lots of success with the little fishies.
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)
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Re: Fry Recommendations (none / 0) (#4)
by miskairal on Thu Jun 08, 2006 at 12:57:15 AM PST

I don't quite understand why you removed the plants from the tank the fry were born in?

Felix will you be able to buy and setup more tanks? If you can't then I'd have to be harsh and say you need to leave the fry with the adults and allow nature to take it's course. Some fry may survive and they will be the tougher, smarter ones probably. The number of fry you have just saved will be too much fish for the amount of total water you have within 4 weeks at most. You have 11 gallons in total. Believe me when I say this b/c I tried saving all my fry a couple of years ago when I was new to this and it just ended up being one huge disease headache despite my doing water changes at least twice a week.
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Sorry Felix, I meant to jump in here too. (none / 0) (#8)
by unclescott on Fri Jun 09, 2006 at 10:02:26 AM PST

Please look at my second comment in response to Ballerina's Overpopulation?!

Those ideas are drawn from people who are really serious about breeding quality guppies. I'm beginning to believe for myself that if I am keeping fish in containers of less than 10-gallons, given my schedule and tank care, I am making a big mistake. We each need to take a measure of our own resources, personalities, schedules and how much time we have to work with our fish.

If you change water like New Guppy Momma did with her 1-gallon fry tank, you can probably make that work while they are really small. There is an advantage in that the fry and food are real close together. They see the baby brine shrimp more quickly. After a time, if I leave fry in small tanks, I will lose a lot of the fry though.

An aside on your guppies and Betta. One reason they are getting along is that 70 degrees F/ 21 C is so cool for the Betta, that it is nearly anesthetized. ;)  If there are any guppy drops, they are probably at an interval of greater than once a month. :)

When you remove gravel from the tank the fish were in, your remove a huge percentage of the beneficial bacteria in that tank. Plants, as mentioned, can be beneficial too and my best fish are the ones which grow out in planted tanks.

The near commercial breeders do usually run bare tanks, for one thing so that all of the newly hatched baby brine shrimp is eaten. The bare tanks also make the significant partial water changes done once or twice a week, easier. Their filtration is cycled and active. They usually seaon their water And their guppy population density is probably a small fraction of what it is  in your tanks.

All the best!
unc

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