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24 hours after water change

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By J-ME
from the J-ME department, Section Diaries
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 01:28:39 PM PST
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I have done a test on my 29-Gallon tank 24 hours after a 25% water change. And I have a question....



Ammonia:  0
Nitrate:  80
Nitrite:  2.0
PH:       7.6

At least my ammonia is down right now.  But my tank is very cloudy.  I have read the help logs and they explain a lot and most of it I kinda already knew.  I think that I am going to skip feeding tommrow and see what that does too.

I have this stuff called Biozyme. This is where my question comes in.  I have used it twice and I don't see much of a difference in my tank.  Does it really work?  If so how long will it take.

Just to fill in...

I have a test tub kit for fish tanks.  

I am thinking of moving my males and my females around.  Females in the 29 gallon and males in the 10 gallon.  But I don't know yet.

29 gallon tank:
around 30 to 35 male guppies (hoping to get rid of some soon)
1 cory cat fish
1 Palco
1 mystery snail
2 fake log decorations (sp) with fake plants
8 fake plants
1 real plant (not for sure what kind)
tank rocks and marbles
Whisper filter 20-40 gallons
thermoter (sp)

10 gallon:
30 female guppies ( hoping to get of some soon)
MAybe 20 fry (1-3 weeks old)
1 palco
1 mystery snail
4 fake plants
2 real plants
sunk ship
1 gnome guy
tank rocks and marbles
Whisper filter 5-15 gallons
thermoter (sp)  on at 78 d

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24 hours after water change | 13 comments (13 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Testing May 6, 2006 (none / 0) (#13)
by J-ME on Sat May 06, 2006 at 10:43:13 AM PST


Testing:
29 gallon:
Ammonia 0
Nitrate  10
Nitrite  2.0
PH       7.6

10 gallon
Ammonia  0
Nitrate  0
Nitrite  0
Ph       7.6

I still don't know what is up with the 10 gallon but hey the 29 gallon is looking better.
Happy fish keeping :-)



Re: 24 hours after water change (none / 0) (#11)
by angelhologram on Fri May 05, 2006 at 10:27:37 PM PST

Have you founf the time yet to do another test of the 10gal? I'm still curious about that one.
*BEFORE you buy fish make sure you understand what "Cycling" a tank means <- quoted from miskaral* ~Trying to make a difference one fish at a time~


Re: 24 hours after water change (none / 0) (#12)
by J-ME on Sat May 06, 2006 at 08:22:13 AM PST

no going to do it today... I will let you know as soon as I do it ok.... thank you for being so helpful
Happy fish keeping :-)
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Is the Biozyme supposed to add (none / 0) (#1)
by unclescott on Wed May 03, 2006 at 09:13:24 PM PST

beneficial bacteria to the tank and speed the nitrogen cycle? If there a freshness date on the package? How long would that stuff be good after packaging?

That is a good idea, skipping a feeding. The cloud is probably a bacterial/ protozoan bloom. It might indeed be feeding on fish wastes, hence the drop in available ammonia. (That is one of those good news/ bad news situations and sometimes just a part of seasoning/ cycling an aquarium.)

Are the two "Palco" Plecos? Possible the Hypostomus plecostomus? They can be a good working fish, but also have the potential to grow well over a foot long and are sometimes carriers of various illnesses. If there isn't a verdant crop of algae, you may have to feed them algae tablets perhaps cooked peas, beans and/or blanched zucchini or cucumber.

Are your mystery snails (which I find fascinating) leaving the plants alone? I say that because I once got burned, having been sold "mystery snails" which proceeded to breed like crazy and at a cetain size ate over $50 worth of plants. :0

They do need to be watched until one is sure. :)

All the best!
unc



Re: Is the Biozyme supposed to add (none / 0) (#4)
by J-ME on Thu May 04, 2006 at 07:22:04 AM PST

I have had the snail that is in my 29 gallon tank for about 2 months now and it has not touched my plants.  I mean it will crawl over them and eat the food thats on them but I don't that he is eating them.  A few nibbles here and there but I just thought it was the guppies.  The 2 that I do have have not lain any eggs at all.  I thought that was odd because I know that they don't need 2 snails to breed but its good too because I don't want all the snails in my tank.

Sorry I guess that I did spell that wrong... Pleco or plecostomus.  He is about 4 1/2 inchs long.  Looks to be rather healthy to me.  I do feed him the algea waffers because I knew that with what I did to the tank there would be nothing in there for him to eat and I thought it might promote growth in the tank too.

As for the Biozyme I do not know how old it is.  It came with all the tank stuff that I got with the 29 gallon.  I looked it up on the net to see what was.  The container is still very full and it looks to be new.
Web site:  http://www.aq-products.com/Catalog/Water%20Treatments/Biozyme.htm

I hope that this is all the info that you asked for.

thank you unc...
Happy fish keeping :-)
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Snails (none / 0) (#7)
by angelhologram on Thu May 04, 2006 at 02:26:19 PM PST

Actually, for the big Apple or Mystery snails that are sold in most pet stores you do need a male and a female. Here's a link to help you figure out the gender of the ones you have. http://www.tronchaser.com/~cindi/ss.html
*BEFORE you buy fish make sure you understand what "Cycling" a tank means <- quoted from miskaral* ~Trying to make a difference one fish at a time~
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Re: Snails (none / 0) (#8)
by J-ME on Thu May 04, 2006 at 02:43:23 PM PST

cool thank you
Happy fish keeping :-)
[ Parent ]


And I'm really glad they are mystery snails. (none / 0) (#9)
by unclescott on Thu May 04, 2006 at 08:12:00 PM PST

They are a lot of fun to watch.

Angel, do you know, off hand, what species of Pomocea is actually the mystery snail?

Thanks and all the best!
unc

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Re: And I'm really glad they are mystery snails. (none / 0) (#10)
by angelhologram on Fri May 05, 2006 at 10:26:41 PM PST

The term "Mystery Snail" can be used to describe anything the pet shop isn't totally sure about but is generally used in reference to the bridgesii.
*BEFORE you buy fish make sure you understand what "Cycling" a tank means <- quoted from miskaral* ~Trying to make a difference one fish at a time~
[ Parent ]


Re: Is the Biozyme supposed to add (none / 0) (#2)
by miskairal on Thu May 04, 2006 at 12:51:43 AM PST

Oh J-ME you don't know how good that sounds when you write that you have been reading the Immediate Help. You have demonstrated EXACTLY what that is all about ie. read it first then come back with questions about the bits still not clear. Onya!

When my tanks were overcrowded I used to skip feeding them every Sunday with no ill effects. That was easier to do if I was going to be away at the normal feed time so I didn't feel too guilty.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but as unc says that is probably a bacteria bloom which in itself is not dangerous to the fish BUT if all those bacteria die off quickly it can cause another increase in ammonia (ahh the joys of fishkeeping). That won't be so much of a problem to you now you have the test kits and can watch for it though.

As for which tank to keep which fish in, I would be inclined to keep the females in the bigger tank as they generally grow larger than the males. The males seem less likely to eat fry (probably not as hungry from being pregnant all the time) so I'd be putting any fry over into the male tank at about a week of age providing there is cover for them. By the time they are a week old the all adults seem to give up chasing them. The other reason for doing this is that if you are a little late at separating the sexes of the fry it is not such a bad thing if the males get one young female pregnant compared to one young male in the female tank getting them all pregnant after all your efforts.

Keep up the good work and good luck.
miskairal
--
Repeat after me,
I will read the Immediate Help
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Re: Is the Biozyme supposed to add (none / 0) (#6)
by J-ME on Thu May 04, 2006 at 07:32:06 AM PST

Thank you for bring light to me on the young male have a hey day with all the ladies.  I think today will be spent getting all the fry in with the males.

I had read that if you skip a day of feeding or 2 it might help with the cloudy water so I thought why not try, but like you said I think I am going to start skipping on day a week in feeding until I can get some more of my fish gone.  A friend of mine went into the pet store a few days ago and said that she still had a lot of the guppies that I took in.  So I know that the pet store will not take any more right now.

A lot of the males have split fin too because how bad the tank was before I got it and because there were so many fish together.  I have read that they can fix but it takes time.  But I don't know if it bugs them or not.
Happy fish keeping :-)
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If the cloudiness keeps up we'll get (none / 0) (#3)
by unclescott on Thu May 04, 2006 at 05:55:12 AM PST

no1likeme1414 (Mark) to run right over with his diatom filter. ;)

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Re: If the cloudiness keeps up we'll get (none / 0) (#5)
by J-ME on Thu May 04, 2006 at 07:24:55 AM PST

Now that would be good.... :-) I saw the pictures and have thought about getting one myself just to have it around....
Happy fish keeping :-)
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