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By Dextear
from the breeding classes department, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:32:12 PM PST
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Which class should I get if I want the easiest breeding? From what I know, feeders are the easiest and cheapest. I'm not going for special stuff, like classy guppies.  I haven't bought mine yet, so I really need to know before hand

thx guys!
~Dex



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by nokiaber on Fri Aug 25, 2006 at 07:22:14 PM PST

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Re: Guppies (none / 0) (#12)
by love my fishies on Fri Jun 23, 2006 at 12:06:47 AM PST

guppies are inexpensive so unless you have $2 to spend i would get your average fancy tail guppies.They run about $2-4 for males anywhere from $1-3 for females



Re: Guppies (none / 0) (#1)
by lomelindi on Tue May 02, 2006 at 04:48:04 PM PST

Actually, I would suggest that you get fancies.  Feeders are oftentimes carriers of all sorts of disease.  And fancies are more rewarding, I think.

Don't get me wrong, I've rescued a pretty guppy or two from the feeder tank in my day.. but for a newbie, you want to start out with the least diseased and troublesome fish possible.



Dex, You raise an interesting question (none / 0) (#4)
by unclescott on Wed May 03, 2006 at 08:34:50 AM PST

and you are to be thunderously applauded for asking questions before you get any fish!!!!

(By the bye, this is a diary, so I voted it down as a log submission or supposedly multi-page article. But I'm glad you are here. Do these as diaries for even faster responses.)

I would think that fancier guppies would be more appealing and would therefore get more attention and seem heartier, in that we give them more care. However fancy guppies are often touchier. Their tolerance for dirty water is less than that of feeder/ wild type guppies. Their susceptibility to a wide range of subsequent diseases (not the least of which include bacterial infections such as tailrot) is much greater.

Lomelindi is right on in the assertion that feeders of any kind (not just guppies) are swimming museums of fish diseases. But both fancy and common guppies should be quarantined and treated with an anti-parasite treatment. I would recommend going with something designed for internal parasites. Check with your pet shop. If they don't know if they have such an item (they very likely do), leave and find a shop, which at least knows that basic a thing.

A strain of fish, often considered to be guppies, which is as tough as the feeder guppies, is (actually are now) the "Endler's livebearer(s)". While they will cross with guppies (a lot of fish will cross in aquariums, where males can force themselves upon females), a recent field study convinced three scientists to stick their collective necks out and scientifically describe these quite variable fish as a new species - Poecilia wingei. (There is a log on that currently on the Guppylog front page.)

They put up with crowding and, if that field study  is reliable, are more tolerant of one another and the males are less rough on the females. However, they will not drop fry until they are fairly warm. My fishroom is often fairly cool by aquaristic standards and they didn't drop until the warm months rolled around. I don't have the precise temperature, but they will begin dropping about in the middle '70s F / 24+ C. Once they get going, the only way to slow them down (other than threatening the wife and kids) would be to gradually cool them down to the lower 70s, something that also slows down growth and maturation.

It is possible to neglect them to the point where they will catch illnesses. The first outbreak of Ich I had seem (here) in 30 years was in a crowded, very dirty Endler's tank. I had really taken their hardiness for granted and the temperature drop provided by an open window in the fall, effectively compromised their immune systems enough that the Ich spread white spots all over them, took a lot of the residents, and only left a well populated aquarium.

All the best!
uncle scott

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Re: Dex, You raise an interesting question (none / 0) (#11)
by ihappyguppy on Fri May 12, 2006 at 03:40:13 PM PST

Really?  I would have to suggest buying feeders.  At least at first.  If you find that you don't like having to take care of all of those guppies, it's much easier to get rid of feeders (they're SOOOO much cheeper too).  Besides, if you find yourself buying the expensive show guppies and aren't sure of how to take care of them, well, you may be in quite a rut, with them being pretty and expensive and all.  Besides, I've had my guppies for over a year now (I know that's not much compared to some of the other people here), and I still have feeders.  And, with the proper care and nutrition, feeders to end up looking quite spectacluar themselves.  And as for the diseases part of it, go to several stores before buying your guppies, pick the ones that look healthiest from the store that looks like it has the best conditions.  Of course, this is only my opinion, but that's my side of the argument.  Listen to me or not, I have to share what I know from experience.
Guppyluvr
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