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Fish constipation

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By New Guppy Momma
from the New Guppy Momma department, Section Diaries
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 01:28:43 PM PST
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I need to know what constipation looks like in a guppy. My one Momma seems to be having a hard time pooping. For the last 45 min she's been trying to pass some and so far only has about 2mm of white string-like poop.



I fed them peas last night and she had normal poop. She doesn't eat much so I'm thinking the peas may have cleaned her out completely and there is just not much in her intestines. At first I thought worms but I looked online and on the google search here but nothing on white skinny poop. I just checked her again and it looks like fry poop. But now it's a bit longer and what just came out is a grayish color. I did give them more peas this morning. That seems to be the only thing she really eats. She had very peaish poop last night. This is the one who had pop-eye over a month ago. She does seem to have limited vision and is very skittish when others are near her.
I also just got a new can of food. Changed brands. Was using Wardley now Tetramin.
I would quarentine her but my one male is currently in the 1 gallon, his tail was being chewed on by the male fry in the tank. But this is a more serious issue than tail biting so I think I'll move them around if she doesn't pass this poop soon. Then I can feed her only peas for a few days to help her appetite. She's a normal guppy size. Not too skinny. But definately skinnier than my other Momma. That one grabs food out of the others mouths. Is it possible for a fish to explode from eating too much?

Well my other fish are doing real good. The boys are starting to color up. My 11 week old fry boys are looking very nice. I believe one is a half black. I think maybe a lavender. His dorsal has a tiny hint of very light purpleish look to it and there is a rainbowish color above his gill fins. His brother/sparing partner is a really strange combination. He has black strips down his back from head to dorsal fin. Only 1 on each side. Then he has a black stipe on either side that begins at his tail and then runs up his body and ends in a big splotch right behind his gill fins. He also has a hint of orange above this stripe and his tail is a yellowy black with a hint of blue. His black stipes will change in intensity. This morning he was "fighting" with the half-black and was brilliantly colored up. Then he faded a bit. My third Big boy I think is about a week or 2 younger than the first 2. He has a yellow tail with black streaks and flecks in it as well as a yellow dorsal with the black. Just today I noticed he is developing black markings along his sides along with more yellow. I think he may be a cobra. I have an 11 week female with the same tail coloring. In total I think I have about 15 males. Most of them are 6 week old fry. My 3 full-grown ones are doing good except for the one with a bitten tail. I have seen the other 2 big ones cornering him so the fry can get in and start nipping. Nasty little beggers.

One more question... Can a ful-grown male impregnate a 6 week female? The males were in the female tank until the fry were 6 weeks. I know it wasn't their brothers as they didn't have the developed anal fin yet. Just wondering as my now 11 week girls have very big gravid spots. They are also almost as big as the 2 momma's. They are growing up.

Okay I'll stop now. Just one thing. Maybe we could get an entry in Immediate help about fish poop and what is basically normal. Just an idea.
Gotta go do some water changes.
Oh and for my tanks to help they are sitting pretty much at 75 to 80 degrees depending on how long the light is on and the temp of my house. I don't use my heater unless absolutely necessary. I don't yet know the ammonia levels and all that but I do every other day changes (20%) and noone is acting sick. Even the one with the poop problem is swimming normally and seems happy. Also no new fish,plants or anything else added since end of Feb. The female tank may be a bit crowded for now. 13 big fish and fry. I have 10 going out in a couple weeks. Just gotta figure out which ones. I can't stand to see my babies go.
Now I'm going. Hubby wants to go bowling this afternoon and I need to do my fishy work first. I'll let you know what happens. I think I'll move her just to be on the safe side. Mr. Bubbles will just have to put up with the pesky brats in his tank.

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Fish constipation | 5 comments (5 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
"2mm of white string-like poop." Please (none / 0) (#1)
by unclescott on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 03:19:23 PM PST

look in IH at hexamita.

ATB,
unc



Re: "2mm of white string-like poop." (none / 0) (#2)
by New Guppy Momma on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 04:47:42 PM PST

Thanks. I looked there and it doesn't look anything like the pics of it. We went out to go bowling after i messed with the fish. I put Crystal (she's a silvery color) in the 1 gallon by herself. She's passed whatever it was. I think I'll just treat the whole tank as one of my other girls is having stringy white poop that has thicker "chunks" in it.
The 2 meds I saw Uncle Scott recomend are Prazaquenal(can't spell) and Metronidazole. If I remember correctly these 2 are found in Parasite Clear by Jungle labs. I may have to raid my daughter's piggy banks tomorrow. Maybe I'll treat both 10 gallons as I use the same siphon and buckets for both. Oh and should I make up a solution of the stuff to soak the siphon, net and buckets in or would bleach, rinsed well and set in the sun to dry work just as well? Tomorrow is supposed to be in the upper 90's.

Could this possibly be brought on by over stocked tank? Also would the treatment mess up any cycle formed. Just wondering. It wouldn't really matter as I think it's still cycling. That or I have way too many fish.

Thanks for making me re-read the info. I had already looked at it but I guess I was kinda hoping that wasn't it.
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)
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Re: "2mm of white string-like poop." (none / 0) (#4)
by angelhologram on Mon May 01, 2006 at 06:55:09 AM PST

I don't as yet have any experience with heximita (knock on wood!) so I can;t add anything that Unc hasn't already said, but I can say that you seem to be a very caring fish owner who really does try and get as much information as possible before just dumping medications in you tank. Thank yopu for taking the time to read through Immediate Help and for the well thought out questions and comments.
*BEFORE you buy fish make sure you understand what "Cycling" a tank means <- quoted from miskaral* ~Trying to make a difference one fish at a time~
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That Parasite clear sounds pretty (none / 0) (#3)
by unclescott on Sun Apr 30, 2006 at 09:28:04 PM PST

promising. For warm water hexamita (and cool water spironucleus) metronidazole or Di-metronidazole are recommended. (It is also the human medicine Flagyl.) Such insight as I have comes from the Barrons Press book (and a speaking engagement) by Terry Fairfield, pages 92-93. That A Commonsense Guide to Fish Health, typical of many of their fish and pet books is not huge, but it has a lot to say. It also is not inexpensive.

Dr Fairfield does feel that overcrowding in a tank and the subsequent fish waste levels are what compromises the fish's immune system.

And (huge sigh!) yes Di- and Metrondazole are antibiotics and will trash the nitrogen cycle. I'm really sorry about that. Wish I could express mail 10 pounds of "seasoned" gravel in a few days to help get that cycling again. ;)

The presence of an anthelmintic will not further mess up the nitrogen cycle. It might get rid of as yet undiscovered worms though. (By the time we discover Camallanus, it is too late for some fishes reproductively.)

Thank you for double checking. I hope your fish thank you too. :)

And don't leave any finger prints on the piggy banks. ;)

All the best!
unc

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Re: That Parasite clear sounds pretty (none / 0) (#5)
by New Guppy Momma on Mon May 01, 2006 at 07:41:41 AM PST

I may be able to save part of my cycle as I have to remove the bio-filters before treatment. The disposeable ones with charcoal I'll just toss as they are due for replacement anyway. Is there any way I could remove the gravel and plastic plants and hope the cycle survives on them or would that be defeating the purpose of treating the tank? Also I don't really mind the daily water changes as I have been doing every other day due to poopy fish. I have been feeding them a bit extra as there are fry in the tank. I am going to have to do the unthinkable and cull my herd. Most of my fry females are gonna have to go. Hopefully my one friend with a pond will take them. She has expressed an interest in them before. But I will not give them away before I treat the tanks. And any deformed ones will find themselves in a jar of water residing in my freezer for a few hours. Hopefully my 3 year old daughter takes a nap today so I can "dispose" of them.
Thanks for every ones concern. I'm off to raid the piggy banks. I'll wear gloves. My oldest daughter had a visit from the Tooth Fairy last night so I think I'll borrow her dollar too.

One last question. About my 4 neon Tetra's in my female tank. Should I put them in the 1 gallon Qt tank until I have done a partial water change after treatment? I haven't removed them for any prior treatments and they seem to be doing good where they are.

OK I'm going now. Now I just thought of 1 more thing. With regards to my female tank which was my original 10 gallon, it seems to be having a bit of an algae problem. Since my cycle is trashed anyway would this be a good time to tear it down and scrub the sides, and should I do it before treatment or after but before I put the filters back in?

For the last time I'm really going. But of course I'll be back.
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)
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