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An update on the cohabitation of bettas and guppies!

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By lomelindi
from the mysteriously reappeared department, Section Diaries
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 01:30:13 PM PST
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Oh, it's nice to be back.. :)

An update on my betta/guppy tank.



For vast majority who probably doesn't remember my setup, I had for a long time a ten-gallon with an assortment of guppies who kept getting an awful assortment of strange diseases such as cottonmouth, et cetera.  They died off rather regularly.

Now, in retrospect, I'm fairly sure it had a lot to do with what I've realized is not very ideal water.  I simply can not get it strictly up to par.  Luckily, I've realized that guppies who are born and raised in said water are absolutely flawless, health-wise.

Now, all of the adults I had have died by now.  I'm not kidding, I'm not that bad a fish-keeper.. this water just doesn't like guppies.  But of the fry that survived, three have reached adulthood.  Two males, and a female.  I know, I know, it's a no-no, but I'm so very hesitant to put another female or two in and watch them react badly.  Maybe by now something has equalized.. I'm not sure.

In this tank, I also have a pleco.  He's been there the whole while, and is holding up surprisingly well for a delicate thing as I've noticed them to be.  He's quite the character, and loves to spread the ball of java moss aaaaall over the tank every time I change it.

The most notable thing about the tank, however, is that along with my two orangey-red male guppies (One clearly having Endlers in his genes, and both being very vivid) I have a fully-grown orangey-blonde male betta.

Now before I see newbies out there dumping guppies with bettas, lemme explain this... a ten gallon is a mite small to have this setup, I think.  The reason I believe it worked is that I started the betta in there when the fry were quite small.  Just bigger than bite-size.  They've grown up together (or in the betta's case, grown old) and they have actually gotten along quite well!  The guppy males' tails aren't perfect.. they always look a little ragged.  I'm not sure if that's because they bicker amongst themselves, or if the betta is the culprit, though.  I see him charge them once or twice a day, but all that ever happens is a bit of flaring.  They all eat peaceably together, and no one ever shows signs of stress.  I feel like the presence of a quasi-predator keeps the guppies lively. :)

I will own up and admit that one of the males did get a sizeable piece of his tail chomped on once long ago.  I think I'm mostly to blaim for having waited a day or two between feedings, and that hasn't happened since.  I quarantined and medicated him, and it's all grown back and hasn't happened since.

The one phenomenon with questionably good or bad implications is that I have seen zero fry for the entire adulthood of the guppies.  The female certainly goes through pregnant and non-pregnant stages, but I never see the babies.  This may be because I had so much drama with the originals and I'm not searching for them like I used to, and sequestering them off.  Or perhaps it's the betta.  All in all, I don't mind much.  I kinda want to slow it down on the guppy breeding, because I bought three show-quality pure white crowntail bettas quite a while ago, and my attentions are all on them.  As I hear it, betta breeding is arduous. :)

So I apologize for my non-presence here.  The bettas have won me over, kinda.  Now that I've finally figured out my password, I'll try and post more.  I love fielding repetitive newbie questions, and reading everyone else's.. :)

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An update on the cohabitation of bettas and guppies! | 2 comments (2 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: ohabitation of bettas and guppies! (none / 0) (#2)
by miskairal on Sun Apr 16, 2006 at 01:21:49 AM PST

lomelindi this is great feedback! I'll add it to the Immediate Help section somewhere as it's different.

Feel free to field the newbie questions :)
I don't mind sometimes but I am getting tied up in the reef tank world and really do get sick of people not reading anything at all before posting.

I changed something here the other day that required me to log out to test how it looked/presented and then I realized I needed a password to get back in and it's 2 years since I signed up here. Took a few goes but I got it.
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Welcome back lomelindi! (none / 0) (#1)
by unclescott on Sun Apr 16, 2006 at 12:11:07 AM PST

Your thoughts, company and good humor are always a delight.

Oh, and the absence of guppy fry is definitely the Betta. :) You might get a few survivors with a thicket of hornwort or water sprite floating "up there."

That clever "predator in the tank idea to encourage movement" idea has at least one historical precedent. Louis XIV had goldfish ponds at his Palace of Versailles. In each pond was also placed a small pike. I don't think they stayed small. ;)

ATB!
unc



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