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By PrettyGuppy
from the Alicia department, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:33:34 PM PST
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Hey all!
    I'm a newbie here and to Guppies! I have 2 beautiful boys that I got at our local petstore.



I am curious about their colors and would like to take a pic of them that brings out their gorgeous colors. How do you guys bring out their colors with backgrounds and such and how do you take pics that show these colors properly? They were so vibrant at the store; now they seem washed out in the natural light...
Thanks ahead of time!
Alicia
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Guppy Color and Varieties and... photography... | 13 comments (13 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Guppy Color and Varieties,etc. (none / 0) (#13)
by guppity on Sun Apr 23, 2006 at 11:36:20 AM PST

You can get a guppies color to show by giving them tropical fish food color enhancer.

               Here to help,
guppity



Re: Guppy Color and Varieties (none / 0) (#12)
by boa on Thu Mar 09, 2006 at 06:36:24 AM PST

Yes, there sure is a lot of varieties and colors when it comes to those little fishes. Usually, if I wanted to have their picture taken. I would wait for the tank to be cleaned, so that the water would be clear enough and I'll wait till it's night time, on the aquarium lights and take a shot without the flask on. It looks good on mine camera. Hopefully, you will be able to capture a really good one too.
Just Let Go


Re: Guppy Color and Varieties (none / 0) (#11)
by miskairal on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 12:16:08 AM PST

I'm going to add this to the Immediate Help so it is easier to find all the links that have been provided by angel and unc - thanks for sharing.
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Repeat after me,
I will read the Immediate Help


Guppy Color and Varieties and... photography... (none / 0) (#1)
by angelhologram on Tue Feb 07, 2006 at 06:56:19 PM PST

Although it's a short entry it's an interesting topic which isn't discussed everyday. I'm pretty sure darker backgrounds and gravel will show the fishs color better but I'll let more knowledgable people give specifics.
*BEFORE you buy fish make sure you understand what "Cycling" a tank means <- quoted from miskaral* ~Trying to make a difference one fish at a time~


Welcome to GL Alicia! (none / 1) (#2)
by unclescott on Tue Feb 07, 2006 at 07:37:49 PM PST

Almost all fish might fade a little if they travel. If you or I were placed in a plastic bag which was tied shut, put in a box or shopping bag and bounced across the country for 15 minutes to a couple of hours, we might fade a little too. ;)

One concern your description brings to mind is whether they were shocked upon being placed into their tank. How many days had the tank been set up? What had been done to condition the water? What temperature was the water? Did you put a little of the tank water in the fish’s bag and let it sit 20-30 minutes? Did you pour off some water and put a little more tank water in for another 20-30 minutes. Did you then pour all the water off (so a minimum number of disease organisms from the shop got into the aquarium) and put the fish in the tank?

Two male guppies in a tank might be a good team to cycle it, though their tails are vulnerable to ammonia burns. If things like cycling an aquarium, seasoned water, acclimating new fish don’t resonate with you, please take a look in the New Tank/Cycling/Setting Up/Water Changing section of Immediate Help. Any number of your questions will be answered. Of course, then there will be new ones off of what you’ve learned. :)

A 2.5 gallon aquarium might be comfortable for them. If you wish to get one or more female guppies, move them to a 10 or 20-gallon aquarium.

As the aquarium becomes established, your guppies should regain some of their color.

If you can toss some low light plants in there, that may help. Not surprisingly, there are a couple of Immediate Help blurbs on low light plants and guppy plants. ;)

Small tanks are hard to keep warm, if they are by themselves. (Some aquarists with what Angelhologram and Maggie and GuppyGirl have described as MTS (multiple tank syndrome) get around the difficulty of heating individual small aquariums by putting them in a room where they are comfortable because the room is heated to a certain temperature.

Are your tanks at least 74-75 degrees F/ 23 C? Especially for the Betta, but also for the fancy guppies, that is pretty minimal.

Another thing, which causes fish to fade, is having light gravel. Most fish in pet shops are young and not as colorful as they will become, but too many shop tanks have light gravel and maybe are also over illuminated. Darker gravel, hiding places, rocks (which you have) give them a sense of security and they will color up better.

When your artificial plants, rocks and tank bottom have stronger colors than your fish, I don’t know what that does to them. 
Others here will be able to tell you a lot more about taking photos than I will. However your do want a place to can set your camera on (or rest the hand holding the camera). That sounds pretty hypocritical from someone who can turn fruit bowls into action shots. ;)

Film cameras may have a faster shutter speed. My older digital camera misses the fish too often in that they have passed the spot I wish they would pose in.

If your camera’s auto focus is focusing on the aquarium glass, move the camera (gently) really close to the front of the tank. If focusing is still a problem, try the manual focus. According to one guy, try the manual focus first.

If you wish to use a flash, can you use a detachable hot shoe or a flash on a cable where you angle in from above and to the side? If you must use your flash attachment attached to the camera, turn off the room light so your reflection is not in the photo. I have seen people take a dark towel and arrange to have it laid over them, the camera and tank side, so as to avoid reflections. A bit of an angle is still a good idea.

Aquarists taking photos in small aquaria like yours have also been known to take a piece of glass and gently herd the fish close to the tank front. The glass piece is set in the gravel and the photos shot.

Both here (miskairal?) and elsewhere aquarists are also taking video camera shots of their fish. Appropriate software then lets them sort through the frames for a “keeper.” The way fish cruise through their aquaria, that is a terrific approach!

All the best!
uncle scott


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Re: Welcome to GL Alicia! (none / 0) (#3)
by PrettyGuppy on Wed Feb 08, 2006 at 01:52:58 AM PST

Thanks for the response! I dont think they are faded due to any reason I think it is more the colors they are against. When I turn the lights in the room off and turn the hood light on and add a background they seem fairly normal I was just wondering if there were better ways t bring out those gorgeous colors I know they have in a way that I can photograph a good picture of their true colors. make sense? Like a SHow Aquarium with rocks, background, lighting etc that bring out colors of the show fish.. how do they decide what colors bring out those fish? is there a method or just luck and repeated trials?

 I did stress them quite a bit when I got them because I had to work shortly after and basically just threw it all into the tank and in they went ( I know its bad :( I  prayed that it didnt harm them and it doesnt seem to have :) ) There color was very washed out for that first day (from when they got put in the bag, until the next morning) but now they seem normal just want the colors to show with some vibrance like they do in all the pics I have seen :)

I am going to try my camera and see what I can come up with. I think I will try with the Dark Background, maybe even try some different backgrounds and see what I can bring out in them :)

Can anyone tell me more about varieties? I will post a new pic here is a description of what each of them looks like :) however it may not help :P

Ron:
He has a siver body with neon Pink and green heading towards his tail he then it goes from a tad of silver between his body and tail into a bit of black that goes in to the center of a squigilly "C" Shape and fans out into the tail beyond that.  The C Shape is colored like a pearly White with neon colors aroung the edges. After the C shape his tail goes Noen Orange with the Black from earlier fanned throughout it and some spots. Wow! Thats a LONG description for a little fish! lol

and

Harry:
He has a Silvery body as well and starting pretty much right behind his pectoral fins his tail turns a Black, Blue, Green Purple color (depending on the lighting... at the petstor he looked blue and then in the bag he looked purple and not then he looked green and not he looks greenish blackish blue lol) and this color fans out into his dorsal fin and his tail and has some spotting at the tips (he doesnt have as long a tail as Ron does so I dont know to what extent his spotting is or should be)
So... I know those are long decriptions and may not yeild anything without a pic which I will post ASAP! I ahve looked everywhere and have found nothing close :P Maybe they are simply as they were described, "Assorted Male Fancy Guppies" :D
~ Alicia ~
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Now that you've named them, they are (none / 0) (#4)
by unclescott on Fri Feb 10, 2006 at 12:26:23 AM PST

family. That changes the rules in terms of their care. ;)

Ron has some pink on his body. Do a Google search for "pingu guppy". He sounds like an interesting looking fish. Sorry I'm so unimaginative in envisioning what he looks like. (Mat=ybe the 2 AM factor.)

Harry reminds me of a Stan Shubel observation. In Shubel's book, one of the most useful for a hobbyist but unfortunately out of print, he noticed that his blue deltas occasionally gave birth to green and purple deltatails. Your observation as to how ol' Harry looks different under different lighting is cogent. Try shining a flashlight right on these guys, if you haven't already.

 Would his body color make him what we might call a half-black? Try a Google image search for half-black blue delta guppy. Then try half-black purple/green delta guppy. If the half-blacks don't pan out, try b;ue, purple, green delta guppy.

I hope that is some small help. ATB!
unc;e

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Re: Now that you've named them, they are (none / 0) (#6)
by PrettyGuppy on Fri Feb 10, 2006 at 10:44:35 AM PST

Ok so looking up those I found one that looks like Ron except Ron has a larger Splotch of that whitish color that this one only has a small one of. and Ron is also not as dark in the area before his tail.
http://www.tropicalfishintl.com/images/enlarge/Guppy/AquaMarine-blue%20mozaic43.jpg
~ Alicia ~
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Re: Now that you've named them, (none / 0) (#5)
by angelhologram on Fri Feb 10, 2006 at 06:31:20 AM PST

Also here's a few links with some good pics of guppies.
http://www.grandaquatic.com/Guppy-fish.asp

http://www.showguppies.com/strains.htm#Moscow's

http://www.deltaguppies.com/collect.htm

http://hem.passagen.se/mikeno/english/esfo.htm

http://www.tropicalfishintl.com/guppy.htm
*BEFORE you buy fish make sure you understand what "Cycling" a tank means <- quoted from miskaral* ~Trying to make a difference one fish at a time~
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Re: Now that you've named them, (none / 0) (#9)
by angelhologram on Fri Feb 10, 2006 at 04:56:00 PM PST

Here's another link that I've found useful for identifying guppies.
http://www.guppies.com/photos.html
Oddly enough (ok, matbe not odd for me) I've had all these links bookmarked for quite some time and refer to them often.
*BEFORE you buy fish make sure you understand what "Cycling" a tank means <- quoted from miskaral* ~Trying to make a difference one fish at a time~
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Re: Now that you've named them, (none / 0) (#10)
by PrettyGuppy on Fri Feb 10, 2006 at 06:12:22 PM PST

Thanks for the links! There are SO Many varieties of guppies is Blows me away! I have searched all over and still havent found a pic that looks similar to Harry though :P I'll have to post a pic soon :)
Thanks again! :D
Alicia
~ Alicia ~
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Ron would probably be called a multicolor (none / 0) (#7)
by unclescott on Fri Feb 10, 2006 at 11:27:37 AM PST

or mosaic. Three or more colors are involved.

When I did an image search on Google for multicolor guppy I was surprised by the diversity that poped up. (Some from that search are just wrong. They are included because they were in a page with photo of another guppy which happened to multicolor.)

When some of the traditional multicolors were shown next to some snakeskins, I had one of those DUH moments. Their tails are a lot like those of snakeskin guppies, but there is no snakeskin pattern on the body or caudal peduncle (the section of the torso connecting with the tail).

For instance:
http://www.tropicalfish.it/guppy/body_strains.htm

Also, take a look at AOC guppies. Any Other Color is a clever way to have an inclusive class or classification which would encompass guppies which didn't fit elsewhere.

All the best!
unc

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Yeah (none / 0) (#8)
by PrettyGuppy on Fri Feb 10, 2006 at 04:23:59 PM PST

I am pretty sure Ron would be a Multicolor Mozaic. I'll have to take pics and show ya'all the white splotch, I haven't seen any others with it like his. Its pretty interesting and is actually why I picked him! :)

As for Harry, maybe he is just destined to be like Harry Potter (whom he got his name from) unique :) He sure isnt like any of the ones I have seen an any of the pics. Then again maybe he is just a simple petstore guppy that may not even be fully colored.. who knows :) I will take pics soon and post em and see what pops up. :) I shone a light on him and his body appears a Black/green and the edges of his tail (just the edges) appear purple very interesting. :)

Thanks ya'all for your help!!
~ Alicia ~
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