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Breeding Catfish?

Breeding
By Syhrus, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:33:13 PM PST
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This isn't really a question, but I have been thinking, after buying a catfish, that if the size of your guppy school (the are schools aren't they?) increases, you may need more scavengers to clean up after them.

Just thought it might make some conversation worthy of the front page.



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Breeding Catfish? | 8 comments (7 topical, 1 editorial, 0 hidden)
In terms of feeding our guppies, we shouldn't (none / 0) (#1)
by unclescott on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 03:40:39 AM PST

be overfeeding our guppies. Feed a couple of times a day, but only what they can clean up in a minute or two.

Several commentators over the years have suggested that more aquarium fish have been killed by over feeding than any other single cause.

Having a few pond snails in the tank may help pick up odds and ends. (If you have a population explosion of pond snails, that is a pretty benign warning about how much you are over feeding.) Definitely you want to be gravel vacuuming a portion of your tank every week.

Can you get an inexpensive feeding ring? Put it out front. Feed only there so you can see how much is being eaten.

Maybe keeping a couple of Corys (if your tank has been cycled after six weeks and ammonia and nitrite counts are zero) will help. But this means though that you will have to let yet more food drop to the bottom so your couple of Corydoras will have something to eat. It is a hobby myth that they eat fish feces. If the Corys actually are trying to eat fish poop, they have been so badly starved, that they may be dying.

If you are having troubles with overfeeding, adding and feeding Corys may be like putting gasoline on a fire.

Are you feeding the guppies on your schedule or are they training you to feed them on their schedule? You would NOT be alone if this is the case. ;)

You may need to fire off quick requests to "Santa" for a gravel vacuum and a feeding ring. :)



Re: In terms of feeding our guppies, we shouldn't (none / 0) (#2)
by New Guppy Momma on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 08:03:53 AM PST

I have no "clean-up" fish or snails in any of my tanks. They seem just fine the way they are. A small problem with algae but I have a rubber scraper (for fish only) that I use and the gups and other fish gobble up the scrapings like they're starving. In my experiance guppies will scavenge the bottom for uneaten tidbits. I also gravel vaccum once a week during water changes.

Oh and in answer to Unc's question...I'm deffinately the one trained to feed the fish whenever they demand to be fed. They have this way of swarming the side of the tank and get these huge puppy eyes going. "We're so skinny and starving to death. Please feed us." Kinda like my little girl who has a bit of a belly and claims she's always starving to death ;) Not likely.  
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)
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By the way, Breeding Catfish is a lot different (none / 0) (#3)
by unclescott on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 03:25:35 PM PST

from just keeping them. We didn't give Jaymi the answer she would have gotten in response to her Help! of about a week ago if the season was less busy. Some references to what goes into breeding Corydoras were given. If you Google Guppylog for breeding Corys or bristlenose "plecos", you will get quite a few hits.

You might wish to learn to hatch bbbs (baby brine shrimp) for the purpose of feeding baby guppies (adults love the treat of freshly hatched brine shrimp too). That does involve some expense and maybe even more importantly, some more time and space in one's home. But your guppies will initially grow faster.

If your Corys spawn, you now have a choice of trying to raise 50 to a couple 100 fry or destroying maybe all but 20 and then raising the 20 youngsters in a 10-gallon tank with guppy fry.

That sounds cold, but do you have a 55-gallon tank available for a spawn of the Corys? :) Even when my bristlenose (Ancistrus) would leave the 1-2" sphere of 3/8th" eggs, their numbers began to quickly tax the "carrying capacity" of the 29-gallon tank they were in.

Knowledge of the specific fish, proper diet and feeding, providing a place to spawn, some understanding of what must happen with water temperatures, water chemistry, and consistent partial water changes are all important if small catfish are going to spawn in an aquarium. But if the young are going to survive, then space becomes even more important. That is not too different from what happens if we try to save all of the fry from any pair of fish. (A pair of guppies produces young which all survive and breed and you become the proud owner of 10s of thousands of guppies in a year!) Suddenly several aquariums are enlisted to help house all of the fry!

And there is so much that aquarists need to learn about how to set up conditions conducive to spawning most fish in aquaria. Most of the 1,300 plus aquarium catfish (a conservative figure) have yet to be spawned. And more new fish are imported and introduced to the hobby every year!

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Re: By the way, Breeding Catfish is a lot differen (none / 0) (#4)
by Jaymi on Wed Dec 20, 2006 at 10:14:14 PM PST

I'm trying to save my baby cories, and most of my fry, as a way to support my other fish. I raise fry of several kinds, bring them into my LFS, and they give me store credit for them, which I use to buy foods, meds, and test kits. Keeping them all just wouldn't work! I will occassionally keep a particularly nice guppy or two (especially the goldens!).

However, I keep a 10 gallon baby fry tank, and a 20 gallon grow out tank. (at the moment, I also have a 1 gallon egg tank)

The fry tank has a sponge filter, which creates a weak current, and won't suck up my fry. Once the fry get big enough to eat newborn fry, they move into the growout tank, until they get to be a decent size, and have their colors, then they go to the petstore.

Right now, I'm raising guppies and platies together, and I still have a few swordtails left in my growout tank. My male swordtail died a while back, and the females seem to have already run out of his sperm. Hopefully, if all goes well, cories will be joining them soon.

Breeding any fish is a bad idea if you don't have the space to put them, or a place such a a pet store, or a friend's house where they can go. If you just want a few cories to help keep your tank bottom clean, you may be better off just buying the ones you want, instead of trying to breed them. Otherwise, you will probably end up with way too many. (or you could get cories like mine, who breed without permission.)

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"you could get cories like mine, who breed (none / 0) (#6)
by unclescott on Thu Dec 21, 2006 at 07:07:59 PM PST

without permission." :)

But that means you are taking very good care of them. :)

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Re: By the way, Breeding Catfish is a lot differen (none / 0) (#5)
by MollieGuppy on Thu Dec 21, 2006 at 03:04:01 AM PST

I realised the space idea, Then ended up with 5 tanks.

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Re: By the way, Breeding Catfish is a lot differen (none / 0) (#7)
by Jaymi on Thu Dec 21, 2006 at 11:05:56 PM PST

You're lucky it is only 5. I have 11 set up, as well as a few tanks in my attic I could pull down in an emergency.

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