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Lyme-away

Aquaria
By fishchick
from the fishchick department, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:33:15 PM PST
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I was wondering about lyme-away... I stupidly used it on both my hood and filter. When I put my hood on it was crystal clear and no fish died. What about my filter?



I scubbed it really well with soap and then washed it with hot water and let it sit in cold water for a few days. Now it's sitting in my basement, waiting to be pitched if it would kill all the fish or used agan. Is lyme-away toxic to fish? they survived the hood, but is the filter any different?

Thanks!

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Lyme-away | 10 comments (10 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Lyme-away (none / 0) (#9)
by ecraseur on Tue Dec 26, 2006 at 05:57:12 AM PST

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Re: Lyme-away (none / 0) (#10)
by fishchick on Mon Jan 01, 2007 at 02:10:00 PM PST

This is making me very irritated, ecraseur.
Pesci Looni
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Re: Lyme-away (none / 0) (#7)
by New Guppy Momma on Sun Nov 26, 2006 at 09:47:44 AM PST

I held off till today to actually vote and it looks like I'm the final decision maker.

Also I was wondering if this could go into IH. It has a bunch of useful suggestions on how to clean the glass of your tanks.
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)



SOAP? That will kill the fish pretty effectively! (none / 0) (#1)
by unclescott on Sat Nov 18, 2006 at 12:17:11 PM PST

Somebody will have to help with the lyme away. There are aquarium products designed to help with extra calcium on the sides - and I wonder if they may be quite similar to lyme away. But let's check first. :)

In some parts of the world there are people who use soap to catch and kill food fish. It coats their gills and quite effectively suffocates them.

Many household chemicals, soap included, are designed to kill germs, bacteria and what-have-you. In quantity (over-dosing) antibiotics (which mean anti-life) can kill fish. That household bug spray can kill fish quicker than the bugs! If you don't know if it can be used with the aquarium, experimenting can be very expensive. That is also the sort of thing, which has caused some animal right advocates to call for a complete ban of home aquariums too. So for your sake, your fish's sake and that of the hobby, please don't indiscriminately use household cleaning items on the fish gear.

There are some (vinegar, baking soda, beach - outside in a well ventilated area and completely dechlorinated afterwards) which can be used. But if you have a question, first check around. :)

If you really want to clean a tank (and sometimes those deposits are worth the effort of cleaning off or simply can't be removed - because they are holes etched in the glass)- ask here, look in a n aquarium book or if you are in a hurry Google Guppylog for (cleaning fish tanks) and get over 160 suggestions. You could Google the Net and get 1,670,000 hits.

Google lyme-away and cleaning aquariums. Those filter corners are difficult to get stuff like soap out of. Maybe also Google cleaning soap off of aquarium filters. ;)



For future referance. (none / 0) (#2)
by New Guppy Momma on Sun Nov 19, 2006 at 04:16:23 PM PST

For me straight vinegar works the best for removing calcium deposits without being harmful to the fish.

As for the lyme-away on the hood not harming the fish well... the filter comes into direct contact with the water where the hood shouldn't.

Anyway good luck and if in doubt...if you can soak the filter  in vinegar water and then in bleach and then in a bucket of water with dechlorinator. Also there should be a number or website on the bottle that you can get in contact with the manufacturers and see what thet think.
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)
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The vinegar and elbow grease is a great idea! (none / 0) (#3)
by unclescott on Sun Nov 19, 2006 at 09:08:39 PM PST

Lyme-away actually was recommended on an Amphibian list. One endorsement  isn't much. That list also mentioned Fluker's tank cleaner for amphibian tanks, sold at Petco. Jungle sells Lime-Off. Other pet supply outfits may have their own product.

Please don't use soap or Windex on tank outsides either. Somewhere around here I have a aquarium glass cleaner sold by some company. Vinegar, wiped off with black and white newspaper might work too on outside glass, though the tank would have a distinctive scent. ;)

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Re: The vinegar and elbow grease is a great idea! (none / 0) (#4)
by New Guppy Momma on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 05:18:21 PM PST

Better a vinegary smell than no tank or a nasty fishy smell.
Vinegar and water works really well. Also forgo the newspaper and use a clean unused coffee filter :)
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)
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Re: The vinegar and elbow grease is a great idea! (none / 0) (#5)
by fishchick on Tue Nov 21, 2006 at 01:21:58 PM PST

Hey thanks guys and gals. With this advice my tank should be up and running in no time! Happy thanksgiving, yall!
Pesci Looni
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Glad to hear that. But (none / 0) (#6)
by unclescott on Wed Nov 22, 2006 at 12:20:47 PM PST

where there was soap, please very thoroughly rub that area down with baking soda. In tight spots, rub in the baking soda. Then take a little wet paper towel, wrap it around a knife point and get even in there. And rinse, rinse, rinse!

Miskairal once noted that a tiny bit of soap must wash off our hands into the tanks. I take some comfort in knowing that a tiny bit of soap just harmelssly breaks down in the water. [Another case for weekly water changes though. ;) ]

Of course I'm nuts enough to scrub down with baking soda, to wear off soap, before doing fishy projects. ;)

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Got a note from the Inkmaker! (none / 0) (#8)
by unclescott on Mon Nov 27, 2006 at 08:22:52 AM PST

Charles (a chemist by training and trade) was kind enough to dash off a couple of thoughts on the above. Since I am a guy who thinks cleaning toilets involves pouring in a dolip of bleach and doing nothing more than letting any reaction take its course, I was a little surprised by his observation on soap. (Whatta you mean I have to scrub?)

The limeaway, Charles notes, is little more than a Phosphoric acid solution. You rinse and if you are really worried about the acid, soak the tank for a little bit with a baking soda solution and voila! The tank is ready to go!

We've got to get Charles on Guppylog more often! :)

"Hi Scott,
Soap is really not a disinfectant. Actually a lot of bacteria live in soapy water. The use of soap and the brushes and lots of water are required to clean hands in the restroom environment  -  but, the quote  ' Happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me . . . .' is suggested to be sung while the child washes their hands.

So, take your time to wash your hands - but soap does work to catch fish! I have actual working information for that.

I think they were asking about LimeAway and that is Phosphoric acid solution, no problem there. It is used in lots of pH down hobby treatments along with several salts of the acid.
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See you in Raleigh  -  if not before . . .

Charles H

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