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By angelhologram
from the Shell department, Section Diaries
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 01:41:28 PM PST
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  It's been about a week and a half since the first eggs were laid and from what I've read it takes about 14-22 days for them to hatch.



  I now have 5 different clusters of about 10-15 eggs in each. I'm considering removing them from the side of the tank when they are a little closer to hatching because they are in the bluegill tank and I'm afraid those voracious little fish will gobble them up the moment they drop down. Has anyone else had any luck with moving Apple Snail eggs? I've read it can be done by wetting the cluster, waiting about an hour, and then gently moving the cluster side to side until it comes off but I'm nervous as I haven't heard from anyone who has actually done it.
  I plan to put the babies in with the gups until they grow up some. The guppy fry will be getting another 10-gal once I have a large drop anyway (see my diary titled "Birth" for updates on how it's coming along).
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The snails | 3 comments (3 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: The snails (none / 0) (#1)
by angelhologram on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 10:10:31 AM PST

Oh yeah, as to the siamese fry he's (she?)still alive. Now that he/she's bigger it looks almost like a growth on his/her belly with a bunch of fins sticking out. I have no idea of whether it's a male or female (or both?) because of where the growth (twin) is. It almost looks like a feather duster on it's belly. Although I know it does, I have yet to see this fish poop and I'm curious as to where it comes out....I really need to look again today for that USB cable so ya'll can see this.
*BEFORE you buy fish make sure you understand what "Cycling" a tank means <- quoted from miskaral* ~Trying to make a difference one fish at a time~


Hey Shell Guppykillisnailaholic! (none / 0) (#2)
by unclescott on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 11:44:40 AM PST

Don't cut the Apple snail eggs loose. If you put them in water, they will drown! This might be a time to use those guppy fry traps or nets, if they would be suspended and fixed under the eggs. Just leave a little veggie material in them to feed the snails.

Bluegills might eat the newly hatched, soft-shelled snails. They don't have the pharyngeal teeth (the second set of teeth in their throats where the actual chewing or food processing goes on). Pumpkinseed sunfish up here and red-ear sunfish (or shell crackers) down your way, would really do a number on snails. Those last two are a little harder to catch on hook and line, maybe because no one has figured out how to use snails as bait. ;) However they are so much more gorgeous than bluegills, that the latter will be exposed as having the gift of plain-ness.

The apple snail eggs probably benefit from the humidity under your hood, but in the air above your aquarium's water. When they are ready to hatch, they will drop into the tank. Notice how, as the creatures at the top of the food chain, we still have precious little control over when guppies will drop and snails hatch. ;)

Books and Internet images will show Apple snail eggs, laid out of the water (as is always the case) but really exposed to the sun! They evidentially survive, if they don't become bird or raccoon chow. I'll bet however those eggs are laid in the hot, humid summer days that you are "enjoying" right now.

It is funny how some biological and even chemical processes need some humidity and warmth. However if the egg or object is submerged in water, the process stops.

Last fall, we had a terrific CKA program on the unlikely subject of siliconing and repairing aquariums. Over half of Frank's time was spent answering questions and spinning yarns by way of responding. His initial presentation included some pretty simple observations like the following:

He noted that silicon becomes hard inside of a few hours and begins to bond within a day. But IT DOESN'T really completely bond for a week! Furthermore, the thinner line of silicon along an aquarium seam will bond stronger than a heavy application. Several of us figuratively slapped our heads and thought about aquariums, hurriedly repaired, which later opened up on us!

Ironically, so long as one isn't getting pelted by a thunderstorm, this is about the best time of the year to repair aquariums in the northern hemisphere. Well, at least in the eastern U.S.

Frank noted that in arid climates, it is very hard to get silicon to take. Then one takes the item siliconed and places it on a flat segment of concrete, exposed to the sun. A pan of water is set next to the repaired item. A cardboard box is placed over it. The sun warms the air in the box, the humidity rises and the silicon sets up. :)

At ten to thirty years, some aquariums show their age. Our patio has looked like a dry dock, some summers. ;)

Now I need to find out which of the items offered at the hardware store best fills in chipped and flaked spots in a patio. Then we can use it for other purposes. :)

All the best!
unc

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Re: Hey Shell Guppykillisnailaholic! (none / 0) (#3)
by angelhologram on Tue Aug 02, 2005 at 12:34:30 PM PST

No, lol, I wasn't going to put them in the water. I was considering on maybe a moist paper towel in a bowl or suspended over some water on some plastic wrap. I was actually hoping for suggestions so they don't have to drop into that particular tank. The adults came from a pond so parasite wise I don't trust them with my guppies, they newborns I intend to place immediately with the gups. The adults have never shown any sign of parasites or disease but I'm overly cautious now with my $100 guppies, at least that's how much they are worth after all the medications and effort put into getting them healthy ;-). I'm even worried about getting another male guppy from the LFS I trust. I would really like to get one but I'm just gunshy about adding anything in with my little girls.
*BEFORE you buy fish make sure you understand what "Cycling" a tank means <- quoted from miskaral* ~Trying to make a difference one fish at a time~
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