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Obese fish

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By Alisa
from the Alisa department, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:08:56 PM PST
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Balloon guppies!



Just wondering, I am fairly sure my fish are on the obese side as they get some blackworms every day (as uncle scott termed it, "milkshakes").  Maybe even twice a day....I know, I am a sucker.  Just wondering, what is the health downsides to this?  They seem pretty happy and mobile, they recovered from ich and columnaris with only one casualty, and seem pretty happy except for the fact that they are really rotund.  Maybe I should market them as balloon guppies?
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Obese fish | 7 comments (7 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Obese fish (none / 0) (#7)
by boa on Thu Mar 09, 2006 at 06:37:05 AM PST

I'm not really sure about the obesity in guppies. But it sure doesn't sounds good to me. As in, the fihes would be much slower in their movements and that's not really a good thing. And yes, I do agree with i happyguppy on the death age issue. I'm sure it's the same for those little guppies as well. Did you feed them far too much?
Just Let Go


Re: Obese fish (none / 0) (#5)
by Alisa on Tue Dec 13, 2005 at 06:48:06 PM PST

I think they would prefer "rubenesque"!



Re: Obese fish (none / 0) (#4)
by DaysSweetDaze on Tue Dec 13, 2005 at 05:39:58 PM PST

My two breeding ladies are hugely fat... it always made me worry... but they're like 2 years old...  ;)



Re: Obese fish (none / 0) (#3)
by Alisa on Tue Dec 13, 2005 at 09:33:02 AM PST

I really wouldn't market them as balloon guppies, maybe as pooping galore guppies, but I wouldn't trick someone so badly.  I'll have to see how long their life span is...  I do keep the water rather warm (82) and their water very brackish.  All I know is they are getting huge and their colors have been getting more brilliant.  I'll keep you guys posted on my fat fish :)



Re: Obese fish (none / 0) (#2)
by ihappyguppy on Tue Dec 13, 2005 at 08:51:17 AM PST

I don't really know a whole lot about obesity in guppies or fish in general, but if we relate what we know about obesity in humans, there are several conclusions which can be reached. First, obese guppies would die faster. Second, they may exhibit strange behaviors that might make people not want them. Third, I assume that most show-people know what they are doing, so nobody would buy them for show, no matter how pretty they are. And as for calling them balloon guppies, my reaction is, "Um...":)
Guppyluvr


Re: Obese fish (none / 0) (#1)
by manders200232 on Mon Dec 12, 2005 at 05:50:20 PM PST

balloon guppies!! lol I found that to be quite humerous!



LOLROTF! I love the thought of (none / 0) (#6)
by unclescott on Fri Dec 16, 2005 at 07:18:49 PM PST

Rubenesque, full-figured balloon guppies. However, Rubenesque is one those words wise husbands don't use under almost any circumstances. :)

I think that guppy obesity somehow correlates with tank size, current, water changes (= more activity, less nitrogenous stuff in the water, better metabolism), maybe tank companions and the diet itself. Most pet fish are like other pets, quite well fed. As Alisa noted, they do a pretty good job of training us for extra meals. Upon joining Guppylog, I was intrigued by stories of guppies swimming darn close to power filter intakes. (I really feel that adult guppies caught in filters were ailing and in the wild, probably would have been caught in a pike cichlid.) Tank size, water quality including oxygen saturation and current must all play a role in how much exercise they get.

How well fed they are is illustrated by how well they can do while one is away for a week or three of vacation. No one would leave another kind of pet without food.

I've flogged the story (too much) of the dying Ameca splendens females, possibly fed too much animal protein and hurt by oversized fry. Undoubtedly there is some ideal range and combination of foods for guppies.

I think that the manufacturers have probably already done a fair amount of research and work on what they eat, in putting together guppy flakes. It might be fun to ask them if they have a bibliography. I'll bet in the scientific literature, aquaculture literature or even in Houde's book  (you don't see what you aren't looking for) are studies from the field on what guppies eat. Also, wild fish don't eat the same every day. Some days they may eat well, parts of others they may spend just staying out of the way of predators or waiting to drop fry. Obviously their diet itself varies from day to day. Wild guppies are also smaller, though they actually might eat more and burn it off.

As for those two-year-olds, they are oooooold! As any creature gets older, warranties run out and parts just don't work as well. As you know, they are much more vulnerable to bacteria and the possibly resulting dropsy because they are old and may already have fluid retention problems and their resistance to "bugs" may not be what it once was.  As Guppyluvr pointed out, additional weight may just aggravate those things. Of course in nature, a two-year old guppy is probably just about unheard of.

If they are chugging along, having a good time, that's pretty cool and a feather in your hat, DaysSweetDaze. :)

All the best!
unc

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