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New Tank... week 2...

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By DaysSweetDaze
from the Jessica department, Section Diaries
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 01:50:33 PM PST
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Okay, this is the "new" tank I set up about two weeks ago... eventually ended up with seven guppies and a toddler.  Cut my water with distilled, temp at 74 degrees (fluctuates a degree or two a day... checking the tank location) pH at slightly over 7, chemicals tested normal.



My little yellow cobra males who had hemmorhaged (or whatever) had to be put down.  The side fin was damaged a lot worse than it looked at first, and he did little more than float.
Someone at the pet store replaced him with a lovely black and yellow cobra, huge delta tail;  but, this fish made me a little more wary of this store... he was a "new arrival" and his tail is severely nipped, and red on the edges (looks like ammonia burn), he is also hunched over the way I see them get when they're really stressed.  He's beautiful... but he's not that healthy.  
Anyhow, he was bottom up when I got him home, and I was just about to give him a proper disposal when he perked up completely and started swimming around in his little baggie.  Hmmm.  I put him in the little sick bay, gave him a little fin repair juice, and waited to see what happened.  Since my other fish still look VERY healthy, I didn't want to drop him in there!

Well, this was about two days ago, and I woke up this morning to find him IN my tank... with the other fish...  Now, there IS a whole in the side of the top of the tank where this all attaches (by the filter)... but that means this fish took a jump an inch into the air and two across into a half inch hole...  Then again, my sister is crashing on the couch and I have this awful feeling she felt "sorry" for the "poor little lonely fish."  It sounds more likely then the three inch jump.

So now I'm terrified.  I thought I spotted some small white spots on this fish yesterday, but it was incredibly hard to tell because of the contrast in his coloration (they might just have always been there...even if they looked suspicious.)  My large orange delta male DOES have a new white spot on one side today...  Could something spread that fast?  
I guess I'm in "wait and see" mode here... because I know dumping a lot of meds in there is probably more harmful than good right now...  and I need to clean my sick tank out before I put anyone else in there (has an airstone but not a carbon filter... need to remove the meds and fix the pH.)

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New Tank... week 2... | 2 comments (2 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Holy flying fish! (none / 1) (#1)
by unclescott on Sat Jan 08, 2005 at 09:39:39 AM PST

It is possible that male jumped. If your sister sincerely sounds like she didn't pity him and dump him in the tank, he probably jumped. Guppies can be pretty social - or he wanted to visit with the females. ;)

That fin business sounds a little like fin rot. Please look for the section in the quicklinks which deal with that.

Now if he doesn't look like that is a problem, you still have those white spots. If the white spots are big, it could be Ick or Ichthyophthirius. If the fish are showing really tiny spots, but so many of them that they form a velvety sheen than the disease could be velvet or Oodinium. More recently is it classified in the genus Amlyodinium or Piscinoodinium.

Googled images, so you can make comparisons, could include the following.

http://www.aquaculture.bz/fish-disease/Velvet-Disease.html

http://dieterott.de/krank/salz.html

http://www.elacuarista.com/secciones/enferme4_parasito.htm
images of both Ichthyophthirius and  Oodinium

http://eric.petfish.net/ich.htm

There is a lot of advice to be found in the Guppylog Quicklinks under Ick and velvet.

By the way,
http://home.xta.com/fishdoctor/page6.html

suggests that seemingly healthy fish could carry it dormant in their skin. The disease would flare up if tank conditions declined. I just mentioned, as a part of a comment to savednloved's recent log submission, that I was puzzled as to how it got into one of my tanks last year. That may partly explain how it "appeared" my fishroom.

If your poor male has two maladies, treat the "spots" first in the tank, with the others because they have now been exposed to the illness too, while making water changes and then see if the finrot still needs to be dealt with. I'm sorry you are faced with this. You have done your best to quarantine that male. Sometimes things just don't work the way we hoped they would.

All the best!
uncle scott



Re: Holy flying fish! (none / 0) (#2)
by DaysSweetDaze on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 05:57:50 PM PST

Thank you for all the information and links.
The orange male is still only showing one white spot... it doesn't really look like any picture I've seen of Ich or velvet, it pretty much just looks like the color leeched out of the scale.  
He's still acting very healthy.

I still don't know how the yellow cobra got into the tank.  I know the lid should have been on the sick tank better, but the Melafix was bubbling the plastic up, so I was venting it a little bit.  My bad.  Interesting to know he could have jumped!!
He was VERY popular with the ladies (and very interested) so I guess it's not all bad if anyone makes it a few months... teehee

I'm a bit over-nervous as I've never had any fish from the store survive as of yet...  but from what I'm reading from you all that's not all that uncommon.  That is sad, in it's own way... poor little fishes.

I thought tail rot with the cobra, too.  And that's mainly why I started treatment with Mela and Pimafix in the sick tank right away, just to be safe.  But the reddness is fading really fast, and the raggedness never got even slightly worse.  The ends really did look nipped, rather than worn or rotten.

I'm still hoping for the best and keeping my eyes on them all.  If some of the females have fry, that would be all I'd really ask at this point, and hopefully they'd be a little hardier for me!

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