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By miskairal
from the miskairal department, Section Diaries
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 11:29:55 PM PST
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My plants aren't looking as good as they were...



Over the last few weeks some of the plants (Aponogetons, I think) are getting what appears to be an algae growth on them. It is dark green and doesn't rub off. Some of the leaves are less green and some are even turning a brownish colour.

When these plants are in their native habitat here in the creek they turn browish especially after flooding when the water is dirty and I assume there is less light getting to them, so...

When the plants started off fading to a less green colour, I left the lights on longer and removed most of the floating leaves but it seems to have made no difference. One plant in a tank where the corner gets the morning sun looks fantastic and is a lot bigger than the others that are out of the reach of the sun. The light on that tank is new. There is not as much of the green stuff on these plants as there is in the smaller 50 litre tank. All the plants are still flowering and one plant has 2 flowers growing right out the top of the tank through a gap in the lid :)

I am wondering if I am getting a bit overzealous with the gravel vac thing? Should I steer clearer of the plant roots? I have no idea how long the roots are?

I was thinking of adventuring out and buying some plants but have read that aponogetons are low light plants so if I can't keep them healthy I'm not likely to succeed with any others :(
Oh and I have also read that they are high light requiring plants - I wonder which is right?

Any suggestions?

miskairal

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Plant health | 6 comments (6 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Bought some plants today (none / 0) (#3)
by miskairal on Thu Jun 03, 2004 at 02:09:04 AM PST

Well I bought 6 plants today, all different. One is anubias but the rest are going to be a search job again as the pet shop didn't know what they were - ho hum :)

The tank looks spectacular so I hope at least 2 plants survive my conditions - that would be acceptable to me sort of.

Also finally got my "hospital" tank and heater. Now that I've got the tank I'd like to think I'll never need it but I know that isn't going to happen.

You know, this is a way more expensive hobby than I ever realized!!

miskairal
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Plant search (none / 0) (#6)
by miskairal on Sat Jun 05, 2004 at 09:14:29 PM PST

I give up!

I've spent the last 2 hours searching to find out what my new plants are and I know 2 out of 7 (can't count, I said I bought 6) - valisneria and anubias (?spelling).

I know several names some of them MIGHT be so I'll just stay happy looking at them and see what lives and what dies.
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I hope the new plants work out swimmingly! (none / 0) (#4)
by unclescott on Sat Jun 05, 2004 at 07:59:51 AM PST

You are oribably familiar with the site, but for the benefit of visitors
http://www.tropica.com/default.asp
has some pretty good images.

If you take another one of your photos, it is alway fun (but a little humbling) to try and ID them that way.

At least the plants don't swim out of the frame ....

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Re: I hope the new plants work out swimmingly! (none / 0) (#5)
by miskairal on Sat Jun 05, 2004 at 06:50:39 PM PST

Hey thanks for the link repeat - I was going to head on over there after guppylog but now I don't have to find the link amongst My Favourites :)

My last roll of film is away getting developed right now (if it's possible for them to develop them). I'm always nervous when I get them back in case no pics turned out at all. Fish are a whole new photographic experience but surely the plants can turn out for me - surely, surely :)
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Aponogetons need about half the light of sword (none / 0) (#1)
by unclescott on Tue Jun 01, 2004 at 07:52:35 PM PST

plants, more than Crypts, Java fern and Anubias and will grow comfortably in much the same light as floating hornwort or water sprite. The floaters could shield the light from your Aponogeton however.

Even though you may not like them as much, you may not want to get rid of the floating leaves. Maybe they are a natural part of this season (when, as you mention, the plants are in turbid water.) It is difficult to program seasonal plants to do the same things all the time in an aquarium. The floating leaves may be gathering nutrients which will build up the bulb. Some Aponogeton will then go into a resting phase (hibernation effectively). Their regeneration will depend upon the strengthof the bulb.

Yours is an interesting question about the gravel vac. Change water, skip the vac once and just watch. You have been setting the observational bar for many of us.

That seasonal cycle of the plants may also help you (or an authority presented with your observations) to identify them by species.

Your observation about incidental light though the window is neat. I don't think we realize what a difference an hour or so of direct light or several hours of diffused light make in an aquarium. Right now, as the sun angles north and "seems" stronger in my fishroom (while fall and winter are setting in down in Oz) certain plants are thriving in tanks where they haven't done so well since last summer!

Often we are away at work or otherwise occupied with responsibilities and don't get a chance to observe what additional sources of light an aquarium might have. If you can watch on a weekend and make mental or written notes, the seasonal patterns will reveal things you never realized. :)

All the best,
Scott Davis



Re: Aponogetons need about half the light of sword (none / 0) (#2)
by miskairal on Wed Jun 02, 2004 at 02:46:01 AM PST

Thanks Uncle Scott,
I took the floating leaves off only because I thought they might be blocking some of the light - I suspect the plant sent them up in the first place to get more light :) Sick as it sounds I had ulterior motives for removing those floating leaves in the baby boomer tank - less hiding places I thought but it appears they don't need to hide at all as there are about 20-30 new babies in there today swimming around as if they have no worries in the world.

Well I might visit the petshop tomorrow and see if I can get the plants you mentioned above that require less light. I'll just buy one of each (if I can) and see how they go. Iv'e now got an excuse to go back and check out the fish anyway but I swear I won't bring any home :)

I read at the Krib about the hibernation phase - how would you know when that starts and would it be at the same time for all the plants? I have no idea when the hibernation occurs in the wild - probably about June/July when it is too cold to go near the creek for me :)  Last year our lowest temperature was -8°C - yes it gets cold here too, we are about 2 hours drive inland from the coast.

The tank will only get sunlight during winter as it's about 10 feet from the window and we are only a little south of the Tropic of Capricorn so the sun is normally overhead or near to.

It's going to be hard to skip a gravel vac - you all here have got me well trained :)

Well, thanks again us
miskairal
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