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By gupppies, Section Diaries
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 11:29:57 PM PST
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A few days ago one of my adult males which I raised myself started hanging around the top of the tank, not swimming much, and he started to get a bit bloated.



Here we go again, dropsy I thought, and placed him in my hospital tank. On closer inspection I could see a light coloured spot through the abdomen. This morning the fish was lying on the bottom of the tank, but was still alive. I had a closer look and saw that there was what looked like a very large popped open ulcer, the size of the entire abdomen on his side. There was a white puss like substance inside. I immediately put the fish down, disinfected the net and flushed him. Any idea what might have caused this? i have never come across anything like this before, and none of the other fish seem to be affected.
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ulcer? | 2 comments (2 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
When lesions appear, the question of fish TB or (none / 0) (#1)
by unclescott on Wed May 26, 2004 at 06:06:25 AM PST

Mycobacteriosis raises it's ugly head. Take a look at the link below.

I hope that I am really wrong with this guess.

I might also add, if you have a cut, let it heal before you put your hands in that tank. If one cuts their hand while working in or around a tank, let the cut bleed clean over a sink and squirt a little hydrogen peroxide over it.

While the Mycobacterium species which cause fish TB are not the species which cause human TB, you finger or hand can be infected with these species which are most comfortable in the 70s or 80s F.

If you do a search for "Fishkeeper's Finger" you should find several hits. Even the AMA Journal and Good House Keeping have had articles on it as early as the '70s.

Infections can be cured with anti-biotics, surgery for those who ignore it while it spreads on one's skin. Elderly people may find the path to a cure will involve even months of treatment because their immune system doesn't combat it as effectively as with younger people.

Several years ago, I developed a crusty skin patch on my hand. One big honking dose of a new (to me) anti-biotic for a sinus infection also cleaned up my hand! Guess i was lucky.

Mycobacterium are common in tanks. It will exist benignly in the mulm at the bottom of a tank for years. When water conditions slip or an older, less healthy fish contacts it, it can enter it's more virulent and even more contagious phase.

Fish TB is virtually impossible to cure with the fishes. You did the wise thing with your late fish.

At least one party has suggested that boiling gravel and bleaching the tank is a start. He then felt that swabbing down the tank sides with rubbing alcohol (which would rupture Mycobacteria cell membranes) was necessary.

The stuff seems to have entered my tanks when I purchased several rainbowfishes from different sources. An infected tank was quarantined and attended to with different equipment. I haven't seen evidence of it for years, but who knows?

See:
http://members.optushome.com.au/chelmon/Myco.htm

Also do an image search with Google or AltaVista for Mycobacteriosis. Don't look while eating lunch. :(



Re: When lesions appear, (none / 0) (#2)
by gupppies on Sat May 29, 2004 at 01:14:32 AM PST

Oh my god, I do hope you're wrong. Could this have been introduced by plants? I recently put some new plants in the tank. I did treat the plants first, but looking at how resistant this bug is I have my doubts that this would have done anything.

Yesterday I found one of my older fry sitting on the bottom of another tank, and the tail had a light spot with a bit of swelling on it. I destroyed the fish as well, but it now looks that I have somehow cross contamined into that tank if that was in fact the same disease. I am going to keep a close eye on my fish and keep my fingers crossed. Just when everything was going so well without any problems........

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