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Too many plants?

Aquaria
By miskairal
from the miskairal department, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:19:52 PM PST
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Back again to ask more :)



Hi there once again,

I am wondering now if you can have too many plants in a tank?

The reason I ask is that the plants I took from the creek turned out to be a bit more than I needed and I don't like to waste things so....
I stuck them all in Tank 2. It was lovely and clear for 9 days but now the overall appearance is a bit yellowish, not dirty or cloudy but more like the light shining through the plants is giving off a yellowish glow. Can you have too many plants and/or can they cause harm?

Update - I put 4 young males into this tank 3 days ago and they are having a real bachelors party under the waterfall filter, they love it and I always find them under it. Two days later they were still looking so happy and healthy that I went ang got another 10 out of Tank 1 to join these. So far all is well and I can even see a bit of a dent in the numbers in tank 1 thank goodness.

I'm still waiting on test kits and tank stand so I hope all continues to go well. I think sometimes we're tooooo laid back in Oz :)

Thanks for your time once again
miskairal

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Re: Too many plants? (none / 0) (#3)
by arts on Sat Apr 03, 2004 at 06:41:59 PM PST

whats the skinny on live plants? obviously they offer a Huge benefit, far greater than plastic plants, but are they hard to talk care of? and where do you get them from? are they really worth it...? (hey maybe i can take some off your hands miskairal...;)..)
'I've had a wonderful evening, but this wasnt it' -groucho marx ARTS


Re: Too many plants? (none / 0) (#4)
by miskairal on Wed Apr 07, 2004 at 06:35:07 PM PST

Sorry for not replying sooner arts - there is just so much to read here at guppylog and I get lost in it all at times :)

I got 2 different species of plant from the creek that surrounds our farm. Probably illegal but I only took a bit from a crossing that often comes out of the water anyway so the plants would die off then. I figured it was safe as I use the creek water in the fish tank anyway with no treatments beforehand.

One of the plants totally died off in the tanks - just died at the crown and the green stems just slowly drifted to the surface over many days. The other plant seems to be doing Ok but I have the lights on for about 16 hours - due to the fact I have to get up at 4.30am every day so the fish can too.

If you happen to live near Murgon, Qld, Australia - I'll show you where to get the plants :))
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Too many plants! In the play Fiddler On (none / 0) (#1)
by unclescott on Tue Mar 30, 2004 at 11:19:33 AM PST

The Roof, the dairyman Tevye is told by the youthful revolutionary, "Riches are the curse of mankind!" Tevye quickly responds, "And may I never recover!."

I imagine some of us feel that way about your plants. There are so many good things about plants.

As you know, they make the tank more pleasing to the eyes. They help bring out colors in some fish which we didn't realize were there or could be so intense. They shelter fry and harassed adults.

They also contribute to the well being of the tank by absorbing ammonia and providing surface upon which micro-foods grow - nourishing grazing fry. With egg laying fish they offer yet another spawning surface and with livebearers about to drop, they offer some solitude for birthing.

I suppose you could say they even allow us to cheat a little on water changes. Don't take that too far though. (Do as I say, not as ...) :)

In the dark, again as many of you know, plants somewhat reverse the photosynthetic cycle. They stop absorbing CO2 and producing oxygen and even release some carbon dioxide back into the water. In crowded tanks that might be a problem at night. Your water fall/filter in all likelihood sufficiently moves the water to and from the surface (when the gas exchanges take place) and your fish are safe.

That discoloration of the water is a bit puzzling. I would look to the bottom and odd corners of your tank and see if the plant canopy is so shading some plants or leaves that they are dying. In quantity the decaying plant material could be a bit of a problem. Clip brown and discolored leaf sections off. Siphon debris before it decays too much.

Some of us layer tanks, having "low light plants" (among others) such as Java moss, Java fern, and Crypts on the bottom layer. The Aquatic gardeners actively take scissors and trip cuttings from their garden (making themselves very popular with other aquarists.)
I'm dumbfounded by the mention of compost piles some Aquatic Gardeners have "out back."

Just the other day someone on the Killietalk list noted that he threw out great handfuls of Java moss. Somewhat agitated, I suggested selling it and putting the kids through college. ;)

See the following for starters:
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/index.htm
http://www.aquatic-gardeners.org/

I gather that there are tight restrictions on what may be shipped out of Oz. So Trans-Pacific swaps are out.

But if you (in what spare time?) checked around on-line or in other ways, you might find others from Oz to swap plants with.

Maybe do google searches for combinations of: Australian Aquarium Plant Club.

All the best!
Scott D



Re: Too many plants! In the play Fiddler On (none / 0) (#2)
by miskairal on Wed Mar 31, 2004 at 06:47:44 PM PST

Thanks uncle scott.

I think there really was too much greenery in there and then when I went searching and moving I discovered that some of the vegetation to the back and down low was dying. The tops of the plants were still green though.

Have done 20% water changes yesterday and again today (after milking, delivering dead premature goat triplets, fencing etc - ahh but haven't done the dishes :) and have removed most of the plants and will start again. All 14 young bachelors look healthy and well thank goodness.

The more you know, the more you panick!

I managed to buy some dried bloodworms here 2 days ago - don't they go ballistic over them. The fish are almost climbing over each other to get to them. No wonder I've seen mention here that they are used to mix in medications.

I don't know how tight the restrictions are on sending stuff out of Oz but it's near impossible to get anything living in. I respect our quarantine position here as not many countries have our isolation and therefore added help in protecting our native environment. Mind you there have been a lot of idiots in past centuries who have introduced disaster eg. rabbits, foxes, cane toads.

You know - once you get talking here it is pretty hard to stop, isn't it?

Cheers
miskairal
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