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a new tank cycle

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By josh
from the josh department, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:15:28 PM PST
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hello everyone,

I was very surprised to see a 33 gallon aquarium under the tree, Christmas morning. The second we arrived home from our traditionnal trip to my aunt's house for Christmas dinner, I found a sturdy stand in our garage and filled the tank with water right away. It has an Lee's undergravel filter, florescent lighting and a 150 watt heater. I went to the LFS on boxing day and picked up some really nice gravel already cycled in one of their tanks, a background, 2 plants and a piece of drift wood.



Right now in it, it has two inches of gravel, 4 plants and everything else named above, (no fish).
It has been running for 5 days without fish. I went to the LFS today and got the water tested. Everything was perfect. How can I tell when it is safe to put the fish in? Does the tank need fish to complete the cycle? How long does this cycle take?

thanks for all your help.

Josh

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a new tank cycle | 7 comments (5 topical, 2 editorial, 0 hidden)
(Comment Deleted) (none / 0) (#7)
by sz0755 on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 09:57:46 PM PST

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Re: your fish problem (none / 1) (#5)
by alemaniac on Fri Jan 07, 2005 at 04:15:43 PM PST

hi mate, i would buy a neon or sumert to test thats what i did most ppl do it 2 my mate did it with a angel fish<<dont do that lol thats more to lose than a neon any ways thats all i did put a neon in if it's ok then away you go. oh btw megga crimbo prezzy.

 jago
jago



Re: your fish problem (none / 0) (#6)
by miskairal on Sun Jan 09, 2005 at 12:32:51 AM PST

Josh, everything I've read says that Neons are not good for cycling a tank! They keel over pretty quick during the cycle so it would be terribly unkind to add them to start with knowing they have a fair chance of not surviving. It is always recommended that you only add Neon Tetras AFTER a tank has cycled.

I have no idea what a sumert is?

There ae tougher fish out there to use but I don't know what they are - I gather even guppies are tougher for tank cycling (not that guppies seem all that tough to me, they seem to get everything wrong with them).

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Re: a new tank cycle (none / 0) (#4)
by miskairal on Fri Dec 31, 2004 at 01:41:33 PM PST

Hi Josh,

The time it takes for a tank to cycle varies depending on size of tank, the number of fish added and how often you do water changes. You have used "seeded" gravel and if you only add 3 guppies you may not even see a cycle with your water testing because that gravel may supply enough (or maybe even more than enough) bacteria to cope with the wastes of those 3 fish. That would be a good thing for the fish.

However, every time you add more fish, you will/may get a mini cycle ie. the bacteria numbers have to rise to look after your fish and they can't do that until your fish supply them with waste in the form of poop and possible left over food.

The idea is then that you always add only 2-3 fish at a time so you don't create a big cycle that may kill your fish.

That's all easier said than done because in my experience, 2-3 guppies don't look so happy on their own in a big tank.

Do what unc says and add some fish now to keep the bacteria alive and avoid adding more than say 3 guppies at a time. If later on you want to put different fish in that tank, remove what you don't want in there and immediately add the new fish but only so that you have added the same amount of fish as you had in there ie. replace 6 inches of fish with 6 inches of fish.

Awesome Christmas present by the way!

cheerio
miskairal
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If you used gravel which was biologically active, (none / 0) (#3)
by unclescott on Fri Dec 31, 2004 at 11:04:08 AM PST

why don't you add the majority of the water from a healthy tank so the bacteria in the gravel isn't killed off by the chlorine? If you can do that, can you pull 2 or 3 fish from a disease free tank and acclimate them to the new tank? (Leave the ones healing from the ick alone for now.)  The fishy waste material will feed the bacteria in the gravel.

If you do not put any fish or conditioned water in the tank, that bacteria in the gravel will starve and you might as well have started with brand new gravel. The output of the fish and the gravel will further seed the filter. You can always move the fish used to begin the cycle out if you change your fish around later. Add a few fish every week or two, maybe checking ammonia and nitrate levels as you go along.

What two plants did you put in there? Are they fast growing floating plants or something like Val which multiplies fast? Then their numbers will help your tank over bumps in the cycling process and be numerous enough to discourage algae.

As for the mis-placed diary entry, move your log - right after you get those three guppies into the 33. ;)

All the best!
u.s.



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