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Sand?

Aquaria
By stephane
from the Stephane department, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:16:37 PM PST
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Hello,
I was wondering if sand will get sucked up by the gravel cleaner?
Because I want to maybe put sand in my next aquarium.

                     Thank You

                     Stephane Bilbey



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Sand? | 4 comments (4 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Sand? (none / 0) (#2)
by miskairal on Mon Nov 08, 2004 at 06:05:54 PM PST

Hi Stephane,

I have read that a small amount will get sucked up but you can then let it settle in the bucket (or whatever you use) and tip out the water, returning the sand to the tank.

I've also read that sand is much easier to keep clean as the debris sits on top instead of working it's way down as it does with the gravel. Apparently you also need to make sure you "disturb" the sand all over the tank on occasion to prevent the build up of pockets of anaerobic bacteria.

I heard about a sand that is black called Tahitian moon sand. It's said to look very good in a tank, very natural.

Keep us up to date on your sand venture as there are others of us here that are interested also :)

Cheers
miskairal
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Re: Sand? (none / 0) (#1)
by maggie1270 on Mon Nov 08, 2004 at 04:27:58 PM PST

I would imagine that depending on the size of your syphon and the grain of the sand, some would definitely be sucked up through the syphon.  
Maggie


I think that it is neat that more aquarists are (none / 0) (#3)
by unclescott on Tue Nov 09, 2004 at 08:03:03 PM PST

checking out sand again.  Sand, which seems more popular in other countries, seems to be enjoying a resurgence among some plant people. One will see more natural behaviors with cichlids, Corys, and certainly with some loaches which will even bury themselves. Others are taken with the look of the tank and the fact that plants may thrive, especially producing great root systems (though transplanting can be a pain.)

A few plant geeks leave plant fertilizers or special gravels under the sand. That is pretty tricky for most of us.

Sand needs to be stirred (but not siphoned under the surface) so dead spots will not form. I like Miskairal's idea of siphoning it to a bucket, but fear that too much of that may set the nitrogen cycle back a bit and dislodge plants.

I took a look at

http://fins.actwin.com/search.cgi?page=1&search=sand

and felt a little like I was taking a stroll down nostalgia lane, in that several of the discussions were familiar to me. Never-the-less, virtually all of the insights below were quickly culled from the comments of others who have a lot more experience with sand. Among some of the more immediately useful insights (among the relatively few articles I skimmed) were:

A popular source for aquarists is sandblasting sand at Lowe's.

Sand and gravel are low-price commodities and are thus highly local. What is true for N. CA is not likely to be true for So. CA or AZ, much less GA or NY.

Keep the siphon ABOVE the sand, not in it. You are only trying to get the stuff laying on top of the sand, not in it.

I think they remove the fine dust to meet OSHA requirements for low silica inhalation. (Still rinsing dusty sand or gravel is best done outside, so little of that gets in your lungs - u.s.)

Don't use "white play sand". Its particles are too fine and contacts way too easily.

Yet a lot of others disagreed that all play sands were bad.

The best sand I found in my area was in a pool supply store. It's silica sand used in pool filters...

I think, maybe anaerobic, bacteria grows, decays
 matter that finds it way down into the sand, and the process causes (toxic) gasses to form, which if it escapes to the water column can quickly foul and poison a tank.

Erik Pfingstner: actually I know that sand is a wonderful substrate for many cichlids. It is
a bit more work though because you should be cleaning up the sand weekly (at least every other week) under the rocks and at places the fish don't stir up by themselves. Yet 3-4 inches is a lot to keep gases from forming. 1.5 to 2 inches will be enough work.

For contents of sand see

http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/silica/

All the best!
u.s.

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Re: I think that it is neat that more aquarists (none / 0) (#4)
by guppygirl on Sun Nov 14, 2004 at 03:47:39 AM PST

Hey unc;e, and Miskairal,

Thanks for the insight, I only have a small portion of sand in one of my tanks, yet never knew it should be vacuumed differently.

Good to know, since I'm thinking of a redo on that tank soon with more sand.

Just goes to show, you can always learn something
new here.

gg
:o)

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