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Bloodfin Tetras

Behavior
By josh
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Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:16:59 PM PST
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Hello Again, I'm getting a second aquarium within the next 50 days and I want the one I have now to be only for livebearers and the new one for tetras and cichlids. It would have more and larger fish. My question is are bloodfin tetras capable of living with cichlids such as angel fish and other more calm fish? (Edited 11-4-04, 8:52 CST by u.s.)



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Bloodfin Tetras | 6 comments (6 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Bloodfin Tetras (none / 0) (#5)
by PeterW on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 07:11:02 PM PST

I like bloodfins.  They tend to be small tetras though, so I'd expect them to become cichlid-lunch fairly quickly.  I think you'd be really pushing your luck with that combination.

For some reason or other, I have much better luck with my tetras than with my guppies.   Except for neons that is.  (I got 6, 1 died.  I got 5 more.  6 died.  I got 6 more. 5 died.  I have 5 left).  They really complement the bloodfins though, especially in a well lit planted tank.  Besides the neons, I have not lost any tetras.  But in the same time I must have lost close to 50 guppies.

I have rosey's, black phantoms, bloodfins, diamonds, red/blue columbian (I have a horrible feeling these guys were a mistake), neons, otos, siamensis and 5 yoyo loaches in a planted tank.  They all seem to get along fairly well.  The rosey's, bloodfins and neons are my favourites, but definately all in second place compared to the always amusing yoyos.  Feeding time is always a laugh.  And the yoyos go nuts for algae wafers!  And I feed the yoyos all the snails that I pull out of other tanks.



Re: Bloodfin Tetras (none / 0) (#1)
by gupppies on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 12:08:52 AM PST

I've never had much luck with tetras (then again, I've probably lost more guppies than tetras....). I have one bloodfin tetra left, which I have had for a long time. It's living happily with my guppies and they get along fine. I'm sure it would do fine with angelfish.



Re: Bloodfin Tetras (none / 0) (#2)
by parttimer on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 03:37:07 PM PST

If you mix cichlids and tetras, you will have a tank of only cichlids.

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What have you found out about bloodfin tetras (none / 1) (#3)
by unclescott on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 08:22:56 PM PST

in your reading and asking around Josh?

I Appreciate what gupppies and Parttimer have to say about cichlids and tetras. That mouth size factor again comes into play.

So also does the behavior of cichlids. As a rule, tetras would go well with the dwarf, South American cichlids. But when even the innocuous Nannacara anomala spawns, the little one inch females will chase their far larger males to a far off corner of the aquarium. They will proceed to murder every Cory in the tank, lest they eat the cichlid's eggs in her nest. She even changes from demure brown hues to a bold checkboard pattern (which her fry will identify with and follow - they've done some interesting experiments on that pattern.) When other fish see that pattern, they "know" they had better swim to the other side of the pond or die at the hands (fins? mouth?) of the most ferocious 1 inch fish they will ever encounter.

Cichlid people keep "companion fish" such as rainbowfish, which swim around in the open water and help the cichlids to feel comfortable and safe. The cichlids then venture out where they can be seen in that aquarium.

Cichlid people also speak of dither fish - like some tetras and livebearers. The purpose of the dither fish is much the same as the companion fish. Their fate though, may not be the same. No one uses expensive fish as dithers. :(

Angelfish, severum, festivum (whatever their scientific names are today) come from similar reedy backwaters (hense their design). In a 55-gallon or larger tank, several of them, with good water quality, can be kept together. If you research comparable sized fish, their behaviors, diet and habitat, you can find fish which can be kept together in an appropriately sized aquarium - though they might be pretty big.

Ten-gallon tanks are often sold as beginner tanks. In many ways 20-gallon tanks would be better. While bigger isn't always better, you will find you can do even more with that new tank of yours.

Tetras also belong to a larger group of fishes called the Characins (care - a - sins). These include the piranhas, a medium sized bucktoothed tetra, Exodon paradoxis, which will tear up the larger piranha and much larger fish-eating characins which are also popular game fish. You might welcome them to the dinner table, but not usually in your aquarium.

They even sell little pacu in the shops. I recently saw some of those at two feet long. Though they are vegetarians, they have jaws which can crack nuts and probably fingers.

So checking around is essential. Do what we may, some fishes are only going to be successfully kept in a species tank or by themselves.

About a year ago, a GL member (GuppyAddict?) mentioned a web site which listed compatible sets of fish. We immediately disagreed with some of their combinations, but the site was a good start. Several books will offer combinations too.

Also do a Google search for cichlid clubs or Canadian cichlid clubs. Their sites may also offer insights into those most studied fishes.

All the best!
unc;e

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Re: What have you found out about bloodfin tetras (none / 0) (#4)
by josh on Sat Nov 06, 2004 at 07:27:04 AM PST

i went to the local LFS yesterday and found the fish called ram,i thought hey those look like great fish almost buying some. but i didnt, so i decided for one of my aquariums i was going to get angel fish and rams. Do they live well together? do angel fish or rams kill corys?

thanks, josh

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Rams are very neat and inoffensive little cichlids (none / 1) (#6)
by unclescott on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 11:04:52 AM PST

They can be a little delicate. Some aquarists have trouble spawning Far Eastern raised fish and mutter things (fairly or not) about hormone treatments. The wild rams (Microgeophagus, at one time Apistogrammam and even another genus, species ramirezi) need clean, warm, low mineral water to spawn in. Hobbyists interested in spawning them will keep an eye out for rams spawned by a local aquarist or imported from Germany.

A hardy relative, introduced into the hobby a decade or so ago and found in better shops, is the Bolivian ram, Microgeophagus altispinosa. It grows a little bigger, but also seems to be that rarity - a pretty non-assertive cichlid.

The "smiling acaras", such as Laetacara curviceps or just plain "curviceps", are also very inoffensive. They are so shy they can fair poorly in a rainbowfish tank. The many Apistogramma are mild mannered but need demineralized water to spawn. A great African dwarf cichlid, of peaceful disposition, is Anomalochromis thomasi.

Several of those have spawned in my tanks, but they were in tap water cut by R.O. water. They were not kept with small livebearers. Even though they are not the small fish predators of so many cichlids a little larger than them, why tempt fate? :)

There are at least three species of tetra sold as blood-fins by the way. Generalized care is much the same, but you may see why it is good to know as much about them as you can.

All the best!
u.s.

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