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Historical information on fish medications?

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By PeterW, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:16:41 PM PST
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I've seen vague references to various antibiotics as "older", "out of favor", "not in common use anymore", "newer", "more effective" etc.  But I haven't seen any good collections of historical information.  I'd like to be a little more aware of what I'm using.



For example, Kanamycin is often referred to as a newer antibiotic.  TMT (livebearer med) I've seen referred to as 'old'.

Some of the ones I'm aware of that are used in aquaria are:

Nitrofurazone (Monofuracin)
Furazolidone
Kanamycin
Tetracycline
Ampicillin (penacilin??)
TMT (Livebearer Med - Trimethiazole - Trimethoprim+Sulfathiazole)
Triple Sulfa (Sulfathiazole + Sulfamethazine + Silfacetamide)
Neomycin
Erithromycin (eg: in Maracyn)
Minocycline (eg: in Maracyn-two)
Keflex (hey, thats still in use for humans!)

I know that most of these are hand-me-downs from human and livestock use, but I was amused to see Keflex available for fish when it is still prescription-only for human use.

I've left out the anti-parasite additives and I've tried to figure out what was a brand name vs the actual antibiotic names.  Many formulations seem to have combinations, eg: antibiotic + methylene blue or antiparasitic + antibiotic.

I would love to see a reasonably comprehensive list of historical information on fish antibiotics.

For example, it seems fairly hard to get TMT these days and I was told "that isn't used much these days".  But the labelling says "A combination of two broad spectrum antibiotics that exerts activity against many gram negative and positive bacteria.  It is useful in the treatment of livebearer problems that are associated with columnaris, aeromonas and vibrio."  From the label, it sounds darn useful, but if it turns out that many of the bacteria these days are immune to it... well, that would be useful to know.

Does anybody know of a good reference for this stuff with regards to fish?  Or if there isn't one, I'd love to see some replies with info.

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I'd love to see a comprehensive list too. ;) (none / 0) (#1)
by unclescott on Sat Oct 30, 2004 at 05:49:08 AM PST

Peter Burgess is my best bet to have compiled a list, somewhere, of that sort. And this fall he has a new book out, published by Practical Fishkeeping. It might be worthwhile e-mailing him care of their web site.

That A-Z of Tropical Fish Diseases and Health Problems alluded to in a response to your diary is pretty good that way. You have to cross-reference some entries.

Maggie raised a version of your question several months ago. I prattled away with what little I know or could find.

Human Antibiotics for Fish Consumption    
Health and Medicine
By maggie1270
from the Maggie1270 department, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Tue Feb 3rd, 2004 at 17:10:15 PST

Virtually every fish remedy was previously developed for people and then the livestock industry. There's no profit in developing meds specifically for ornamental fishes.

These veggie extracts by Aquarium Pharmaceuticals come close to being specifically developed for fish. But they are investigating products which are already being used for people in a number of applications.

Several of the items in your list are in the "family" of Penicillin. As organisms (through over use, just using it as a preventative treatment) made that first medication less than useful, Tetracycline was developed. As is became less useful Ampicillin was developed. We (as humans) have a poor track record of over medicating and medicating for the wrong disease and helping to create a world of medicine resistant microbes.

Years ago, I even secured quinine, as per a very old aquarium book, for a fish remedy. The pharmacist was so intrigued by the situation, he just gave me a small package of the stuff along with a "good luck".

As you have found some popular remedies were too popular and no longer are effective. Triple Sulfa may still work for mouth fungus (the more benign columnaris). Go figure.

All the best!
u.s.



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