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Major Algae Bloom

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By GuppyAdict, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:26:02 PM PST
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How do I cure an algae bloom? I did a water change yesterday. Do I do another water change today? If so, how much should I remove? I bought some crystal clear, but I don't think that really works.  

My main concern is that my tank has only been up and running for 3 weeks and has not completed the cycling process.  With all these water changes and chemicals, will this slow down the cycling of my tank?  

P.S.  I don't think I'm any good at owning an aquarium.  I'm thinking about changing hobbies.  



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Major Algae Bloom | 17 comments (17 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
"What about my female guppy (5.00 / 1) (#11)
by unclescott on Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 10:05:55 PM PST

that keeps nipping at all my bigger males?"

Several answers come to mind, It's not nice to anthropomorphize guppies though, so we'll fold those jokes up and toss them. :)

If she is in with the males, she isn't likely to be "untainted". To be a female guppy (or livebearer) in a tank with males of the same species is to be a pregnant guppy (or livebearer).

At the risk of making her a little human, she may just be tired of being pestered.

GG is being most moderate in describing that male's behavior. Put your ear next to the tank and listen to all the little voices going, "please, please, please...."

A field study of swordtails showed females prefering the company of large males (those big studs which sexed out last) because the big male would keep the small sneaker males away (most of the time) from her, allowing her to forage for more food and spend less energy which could then be used for fry and growth.

In nature your female could flee the males. In the tank make sure it is well covered, at least around the edges, so she doesn't jump.

If the temperature in Southern California is 80 degrees, drop it a degree or two. ;)

Maybe the water changes will have some calming effect. I probably drove my parents crazy dropping a few ice cubes from time to time in the tank - maybe a futile effort.

How about a fan blowing on the tank surface? Opps, it's covered.

Feed everyone until they are waddling and can't fight. (That was my grandmother-in-law's solution to most crisis - invite them to dinner.)

Leave more plants, lock rocks, left over leggos, whatever for more shelter.

SL's book title sounds interesting. I think I saw it on E-Bay. (Honest!)

There is a very technical collection of studies on livebearers edited by Snelson and Meffe. In there is a study about female guppy mate choice and male coloration. I'll find it and summarize it in a log entry sometime.

All the best,
u.s.

"...sometimes, I admit, I haven't had the time to read all of unclescott's sage advice."

Asleep huh? :)

Sage advice: how much seasoning to add to the turkey dressing at Thanksgiving. ;)



I thought about ice cubes (none / 0) (#13)
by GuppyAdict on Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 10:51:47 PM PST

I guess it wouldn't be a good idea for me to drop the whole ice tray in, huh?  Won't the sudden temp change stress them out?

If not, I will try to drop 1 or 2 cubes in once in awhile when my temp gets over 80.  

I have been changing the water every other day for my algae problem.  I guess until it gets a little cooler in my house, will the algae problem go away.  

On another note, what does it mean when my ammonia and nitrite are not detected in my water (I don't think I have ever seen any nitrite or ammonia detected since I started the cycling process over again.  That's a good thing right?  

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Algae will it ever go? (none / 0) (#14)
by unclescott on Thu Sep 18, 2003 at 03:55:28 AM PST

Yes, better try to drop 1 or 2 cubes in once in awhile when temp gets over 80. I'm assuming the filter current will quickly disperse the melting water so it will not shock the guppies?

Algae's presence is not a function of temperature - unless it grows a tad faster. :(

More it is a function of food in the aquarium (fish wastes, even if broken down), competition from higher plants and light. Length of light is important, so maybe run the light fewer hours - unless you are trying to help some higher plants get established. I run my lights on timers 14-16 hours/day, depending upon the light.

By the way, sometimes the sun will sneak it's rays in at some odd hour when we don't expect it. Even diffused light from a window can have an effect.

My Dad had a 20 gallon tank by an eastern window. When he put white paper on the back of the tank, it deflected/reflected enough light that most of his algae went away. I wanted him to use a darker, more attractive paper (that wouldn't wash out the fish's colors). He was correct in that the light paper didn't retain the heat that black paper would have.

On another note, what does it mean when my ammonia and nitrite are not detected in my water.  That's a good thing right?  

You betcha! :)

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Barnes & Nobles is $35 (none / 0) (#17)
by GuppyAdict on Thu Sep 18, 2003 at 03:29:13 PM PST

I checked out that book you mentioned Scott and it is $35(new) at BN.  

I will check out Ebay US.  Thanks!

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No, I wasn't sleeping.... (5.00 / 1) (#12)
by guppygirl on Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 10:29:55 PM PST

I was probably needed to change a dirty, smelly, diaper, OR, rewind Teletubies, or Barney, OR help with homework duty, OR make dinner, OR feed fish, OR,.....(need I continue to extrapolate?) ;-)

All joking aside, is there really someone out there that has written such a book?

I will reserve any comments on anyone who has actually read one. ;-)  (Teee-Hee-Hee, sorry, I just couldn't resist!

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Ladies choice ? (5.00 / 1) (#15)
by unclescott on Thu Sep 18, 2003 at 04:03:25 AM PST

Here it is! Sex, Color and Mate Choice in Guppies by Anne E. Houde

(Must be one of the girls in the Houde.)

Hardcover, 1997   - Buy it for $24.50 (Save 57%)
Paperback, 1997   - Buy it for $29.71

(Note which is cheaper!)

see:http://half.ebay.com/search/search.jsp?nthTime=1&product=books&query=guppies

(Man, do they offer a lot of guppy books. One I would especially like is out of stock.)

The usual disclaimer, I have no vested interest in halfcom or the publisher... which happens to be Princeton University Press.


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That's a good deal (none / 0) (#16)
by Scott Lockwood on Thu Sep 18, 2003 at 04:58:04 AM PST

Since it's like $35 new!

"I love to visit PetSmart's Tropical Fish Dept. to see what new diseases are around today." -- inkmaker
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What kind of algae bloom (none / 0) (#1)
by unclescott on Tue Sep 16, 2003 at 04:30:57 PM PST

do you have G.A.? Is it greenwater? Stuff on the tank wall? Hair algae (which I loath and detest while my killies cheerfully lay eggs in it)? That brownish diatom stuff on the glass? The greenblue slime on rocks, gravel and plants?

Only the greenblue slime - actually cyanobacteria - is a sign of an unhealthy tank. The others are a sign that something is out of balance.

Algae may be nature's way of correcting an imbalance. I have a couple of tanks which have gone over to hair algae. The fish are healthy. I'd bet that if I did perameter measurements I'd find that the lush hair algae is sucking all of the waste materials out of the water. (Any impliments used with those tanks are not used with other tanks until bleached.)

Please describe your algae. Maybe more apt suggestions can be made.

I'm really sorry that you are discouraged about your tank. This is an avocation not a vocation (that for GG) and we shouldn't have to spend our lives fiddling with it - unless we want to.

You would have loved watching me try to network two computers this morning. Good thing my daughter was there. ;)

PS: Ignore the diary entry for today. Must be an xy chromosomal thing where I can't follow instructions.



avocation not a vocation? (none / 0) (#5)
by guppygirl on Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 01:03:57 PM PST

Gotta try harder than that Scott!!!

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Tank is yellowish/green (none / 0) (#2)
by GuppyAdict on Tue Sep 16, 2003 at 04:58:46 PM PST

Hi US,

I noticed that the water is a yellowish/green tint, with a film on my tank walls. My LFS said that it's caused by excessive light and temp. There is no direct light on my tank ever, and I only turn the light on for maybe 3 hours each night. In my previous posts, I mentioned that my water temp ranges from 78-80, sometimes 82.  I know this is a little warm for my guppies, but I can't seem to lower it.  I'm sure this will change once winter kicks in.  I guess that's what I get for living in S.California.

I did a water change 2 days ago and that's when the water got all funky.  Is it correct that when you do a water change (during the cycling process)that you do not vacume your gravel? It's just a simple removal of the tank water, and nothing else, right?

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Algae patrol (none / 0) (#3)
by unclescott on Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 02:46:53 AM PST

Water changes are more effective if gravel grunging is also done. An astonishing amount of stuff can be pulled from the gravel. Poop happens. ;)

I think you were on the way to answering you own question the way you asked it. :) Water is a universal solvent, so it is important to change it out. You knew that and were also working your way to the gravel cleaning. Asking questions like that suggest that you are learning a lot about aquaristics.

Cleaning the gravel will reduce the good guy bacteria may be a little, but it will reproduce quickly. That coloration of the water suggests that somebody (actually several somebodies - bacteria, greenwater, protists) other than the good guy bacteria are thriving on the waste materials.

In time uncleaned gravel can create a reaction spewing stuff into the water which will stunt or ultimately kill the fish. After overfeeding, inadequate tank cleaning is probably the reason more tanks crash and people leave the hobby.

So yes, do part of the gravel with each water change. Do the other third? half? the next time.

I've gotta go do the same. :)

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You've saved me again (none / 0) (#4)
by GuppyAdict on Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 04:16:57 AM PST

UncleScott.

I will clean the gravel a little at a time.  And yes, all my research and asking around has really made me more aware of how to run a good aquarium.  I'm very determined to get it right.  

On another note US, should I be concerned that my untainted female is chasing and nipping at my males?  Should I separate her from the group?

What does it mean when my male guppy actually points his anal fin forward.  Dare I ask?

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Don't you dare give up hope NOW!!! :-) (none / 0) (#6)
by guppygirl on Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 01:14:27 PM PST

Hey there,
Yes, you are definitely on your way to becoming a most knowledgeable aquarist.  
Keep up the good work!!
Remember, we have all been there, and may be again.  
I'm probably going to run into a few snags when I do my next set up, I am sure of it.

Maybe you can help me out, because sometimes, I admit, I haven't had the time to read all of unclescott's sage advice.

As far as asking about the male thing, I think you already guessed it,  "He's horny" (tried not to offend, but that's the best way I know to describe it!!!)   ;-)

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Your too funny Guppygirl! (none / 0) (#7)
by GuppyAdict on Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 03:14:37 PM PST

That's what I thought!

I noticed yesterday when I put my females in that my male guppy was swimming around all funky. I had never seen that before.  It was very interesting to watch.

What about my female guppy that keeps nipping at all my bigger males?  She looks like she is the only one that is "pure." :-) And I thought maybe she was feeling fiesty too!  Do they have certain mating rituals that I should be aware of?

I have her in another tank, so that she wouldn't stress everyone out.  Would it be ok to put her back with the group?

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Read (none / 0) (#8)
by Scott Lockwood on Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 05:42:47 PM PST

I think the book is "Sex and mating choice in guppies" by Anne Houde. I have it at home, I'll get you the exact name of the book.

"I love to visit PetSmart's Tropical Fish Dept. to see what new diseases are around today." -- inkmaker
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A lot to learn about Guppies! (none / 0) (#9)
by GuppyAdict on Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 06:09:46 PM PST

Scott,

Thanks.  Let me know what that book is called and I will check it out.  

Is it safe to return my fiesty female back in with the group?

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I don't see why not. (none / 0) (#10)
by Scott Lockwood on Wed Sep 17, 2003 at 06:45:37 PM PST


"I love to visit PetSmart's Tropical Fish Dept. to see what new diseases are around today." -- inkmaker
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