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Blood worms, Good News and A Caution

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By unclescott
from the Foods department, Section Ask Guppylog
Posted on Mon Dec 08, 2003 at 02:26:44 PM PST
Blood worms, live, then frozen and then freeze dried, make great food for guppies, other live bearers, top minnows and other denizens of aquaria. Live blood worms (actually insect larvae) make fussy feeders crazy. Even the falling defrosted ones have a little action which can draw enthusiastic feeding responses. There are situations though, where they can actually be dangerous to some aquarists,



I can harvest a few of these every year in the daphnia containers out on the "back 40." There are evidentally several species of "chironomid" gnats around the world and even in the United States. The vegetarian Chironomus gnat larvae look a little like red mosquito larvae (and that's what Europeans tend to call them). (The red is the hemoglobin in their blood which enables them to retain oxygen in stagnant waters.)

They spend a couple to several weeks growing after hatching from a gelatinous egg mass which
looks too much like some mucus attached to the edge of water filled containers. They develop into mouthless gnats which have about a week to fly around, mate and reproduce on suitable water. Not much of a social life!

They have been brought into houses as larvae when crazy aquarists lug an outdoor daphnia culture indoors for the winter. January or February "heat waves" outdoors seem to stimulate their transformation into mosquito-like gnats indoors - thereby creating some unnecessary anxiety among family members.

They (the bloodworms, not the family members) build mud cases around themselves and can be wiped off of the side of culture containers or shaken off of the rotting leaves they feed on. On hot summer days they wiggle themselves to the surface and can be easily netted.

They hatch out in such numbers that they form clouds resembling smoke over lakes and ponds on
summer evenings. Many bottom feeding fishes count on them as important food items.

Collectors must net quantities of bottom mud and rinse them out of the mud through fine meshes. This is why most American hobbyists don't seek to culture them.

By the way, don't feed live foods taken from waters with fish in them. Live foods virtually never carry diseases. However if they come from waters with fish, they may be secondary hosts for a variety of fish parasites.

I have used three brands of frozen blood worms on the advice of other fish heads who felt that
they were especially carefully packaged. The San Francisco Bay brand cubes of blood worms yield worms which are pretty large for all but the biggest guppies, but they are great for the next sizes of aquarium fish.  

Haikari and locally produced Fish King blood worms are more managable for guppies. They are a great "meaty" conditioning food.

There are a couple of draw backs which you should know about. One is that they must stay frozen until used.

Defrosting and refreezing can ruin the product. Evidentally in a case with at least one off brand - where there was spoiled material to start with, spoiled b.w. can be lethel to your fishes.

Probably producers and pets shops have also been blamed for bad blood worms where it was the aquarists who let them defrost and then refroze them after too long a time.

Let the frozen portion of blood worms defrost in luke warm water. Gently rinse them through a net or small meshed seive.

Goofy as it sounds, if you are worried about their quality, check at a distance to see if they smell foul (when nobody is watching.) If they smell that way, don't use them. (That is why I go with proven brands and take care not to let them defrost before they are needed.)

Here's the tricky part. Don't breath the dust from freeze dried blood worms or even touch live, freeze dried or frozen blood worms much. There is evidentally something in their composition which can cause a few lucky souls severe allergic reactions. Several aquarists have had trouble breathing after touching bloodworms.

If they have then rubbed their face, more trouble can result. At least one person has had to be rushed to the emergency room according to a killilist posting. Who wants to have, "He departed this world after feeding the fish!"

I have had asthma for about a decade and have never had trouble with frozen or live blood worms. (I decline to tempt fate with freeze dried anything anymore.)

Most runs to buy frozen foods at a LFS include a small cooler with one of those gel refrigerant
packs. A section of newspaper is placed between the frozen material and any bags of live blackworms, glassworms or the rare brine shrimp. That way everything gets home intact.

After the defrosting process mentioned above, the blood worms are put in a jar of seasoned water. Most aquarists use a turkey baster to carefully squirt the right quantity into each tank. (If one can find good basters in the stores at the moment please let me know where.) Sometimes I scrub down hands with baking soda afterwards.

Freeze-dried dried foods still have a lot of their food value. They are proportionately cheaper than frozen foods and they obviously are more convenient to store. If you feed them, just be careful not to breath the dust and rinse off your hands afterwards if need be. (Just what one wants on their resume - snorting fishfood!)

One wouldn't stop driving gasoline powered cars just because gasoline explodes. Likewise most
aquarium foods and variety are beneficial to your fish and useful to aquarists with wise use.

One certainly does not want to slander other brands of frozen blood worms. I can only vouch for what I've used. I'd  really like to hear what other brands have been useful for members of the guppylog community. And - seriously - it would be great to find a brand of turkey baster which squirts significantly more food into a tank, than out!

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Re: Blood worms, Good News and A Caution (none / 0) (#8)
by Daddy Rick on Fri Jun 16, 2006 at 01:10:30 PM PST

I use the frozen blood worms & frozen brine shrimp, along with a good quality flake. They get the bloodworms about every other day - when I feed my african dwarf frog - & tend to go to town on eating them right up! They also get some brine shrimp about 2 times a week.

What I do is break a piece off the frozen bar while holding the outside of the bag, then use tweezers to pull out the broken piece & I put it into a tiny container that has a very small amount of water from their tank in it. I zap it in the microwave for approx. 5 seconds (found by trial & error - I cooked a few "batches" way too much & had to toss them before I hit upon the 5 seconds as the best time). It doesn't thaw them completely, but helps the process along. I use the tweezers to break apart the "chunk", then wait about 5 minutes & they are ready to serve. I use the same pair of tweezers (donated to the cause by my wife, BTW, LOL)
I've never had an issue with bad blood worms from that company.

I do have the square freezed dried tubiflex worms but those are only fed to my chilids.



Do all guppies like blood worms? (none / 0) (#2)
by GuppyAdict on Tue Dec 09, 2003 at 10:54:34 PM PST

I've tried dropping some in and they take it in, but spit it right back out.

Will guppies like tubifex worms? I've been wanting to try, but scared it would get my water dirty.  

Whatcha think??




If they are spitting out blood worms that are only (none / 0) (#5)
by unclescott on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 08:57:15 AM PST

5/8" long and these are big guppies, watch out for the @#$&#37;&#37;&!!!     hexamita. :(

Are you from California  GuppyAdict? I think they banned tubifex worms (which often come from very polluted waters) for health reasons. And maybe because they like to pass laws banning things. ;)

Black worms (aka California Black Worms) are a different species, from different waters. They have been criticized if grown in water near fish, but other wise should seldom carry diseases.

Feed a few at a time from a worm feeder or in a little pickle jar.

Rinse and rinse them until all dead stuff is gone when you first get them. (A gallon wide mouth pickle jar is useful here.) Store them in the refrig. with water just covering them. Rinse every 1-2-3 days.

For culturing or just learning more about them see:

http://www.carolina.com/tips/worm/worm.htm

I wouldn't bother trying to culture them. Too much work and very little return for your invested money and time.

One can buy them through the Net, but that involves a lot of money and too many worms for most of us to use before they die. I prefer to get a portion or two a week from my LSF. It encourages them to carry live foods too. :)

However one worm place both shows how they raise worms and more importantly sells a great worm keeper. I highly recomment the worm keeper. It also slides unobtrusively in a refrigerator shelf. ;)   (Dear Santa again!)

http://aquaticfoods.com/farm.htm

Blood "worms", black worms and cultured white worms are very rich food. They are best fed to female guppies and youngsters once in a while. Feeding older fish a lot of worms can produce obese guppies!

They do get placed in my tanks far more often when I'm expecting a spawn. Don't neglect the regular, veggie and/or earthworm flakes for day to day care.


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I use Freeze Dried Tubifex Worms (none / 0) (#6)
by GuppyAdict on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 03:39:30 PM PST

Yes, I do live in CA UncleScott.  Are just the live ones banned?  

I popped another tubifex dried cube lastnight because my African Dwarf Frogs love them. And man, my swords were frighting with my ADF for them.  My guppies kinda just looked at them and swam away like they do with the blood worms.

I am tempted to start hatching my own brine shrimp.  Can you tell me more about this??  

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I have a b.s. article about half done for g.l. (none / 0) (#7)
by unclescott on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 08:17:14 PM PST

partly because there was a mediocre harvest on the Great Salt Lake this year and prices will probably be shooting up.

My do list is growing faster than I can get this stuff done though.

I would be interested in whether anybody on this list has tried decapsuled b.s. eggs with their guppies and fry. Brineshrimpdirest sells them for a whole lot cheaper than regular b.s. eggs.

The decapsulated eggs are from batches which have a poor hatch rate. They are not to hatch, but their shells have been removed by soaking them in bleach. Before feeding they must be hydrated in water, preferably R.O.

The ones not immediately fed can be stored in a super saturated salt solution (for a week or so) in the refrigerator until feeding. (I wonder what that does to the guppies' blood pressure?)

Some aquarists, who have been feeding live baby b.s. have begun adding the decapsulated ones and training their fish to eat them.

G.A., there are tons of sites offering advice on hatching b.b.s. Let me offer a few (maybe too many) below.

For people really interested in research on brine shrimp see:

http://allserv.rug.ac.be/aquaculture/general/general2.htm

For hatching b.s see:

http://www.thekrib.com/Food/

http://fins.actwin.com/search.cgi

http://www.attention-to-details.com/newslog/34h-instructions-for-decapsulating-and.asp

http://www.brineshrimpdirect.com/hatching%20brine%20shrimp.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=hatching+brine+shrimp&btnG=Google+Search
..........
Oh yeah, I would guess the freeze bried tubifex are legal (no lawyer I though). Just don't breath the dust. ;)


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Mine love them!! (none / 0) (#3)
by guppygirl on Wed Dec 10, 2003 at 11:50:13 AM PST

The smaller guys will grab a piece, and then swim around with one sticking straight out of their mouth!!!

It's pretty funny to watch!!!

I do thaw them first in a little water from the aquarium.

I've never tried tubifex worms.  One kind of wormy food is enough for me.

gg
:-)

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lol !!! (none / 0) (#4)
by red illuzion on Wed Dec 10, 2003 at 04:26:07 PM PST

yea thats funny when the little guppies get worms way bigger than them and take forever to get it all in and eat it. i feed my guppies bloodworms and tubifex worms once a week. the tubifex are alot smaller and even the smaller guppies can enjoy these.

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Another thing you might try (none / 0) (#1)
by Aerelynn on Mon Dec 08, 2003 at 11:09:59 PM PST

as far as the squirty things go, is one of the medicine droppers for infant tylenol (or some such thing)  They aren't very large, but they would be good for the small stuff like brine shrimp.  I haven't ever really seen bloodworms so I'm not sure of their size, but if they aren't too much bigger then they should fit in there just fine too.  I'd suggest a good boiling or two first before use, as I'm pretty sure human tylenol doesn't cure fishy headaches, but causes migranes =P

Aerelynn



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