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The Future of Aquatic Medicine?

Health and Medicine
By unclescott
from the News Central department, Section News
Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:24:21 PM PST
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Took some time from one of those amazingly mild November days last week to run over to a couple of pet shops for dog and fish supplies. Our 23 lbs of romping, stomping doggo, an adopted poodle/terrier cross (variously referred to as a Teroodle or Schnoodle) wanted to ride shot gun.(He so seldom gets out!) Wish he wouldn't argue over who gets to drive.



On the shopping list, as a result of discussions on Guppylog, was potassium permanganate. Neither shop had it. In the course of asking about it, one of the fish people at Capital Pets mentioned something that gave me pause.

He suggested that because of new FDA regulations, few, maybe no, antibiotics would be sold in pet shops as of 2005. Why had nothing to do with our often cavalier use of these medicines (which helps a lot of bacteria to become resistant to so many medicines.)

Neither did it have to do with the tendancy (in the U.S., maybe elsewhere) for some food industries just mix antibioltics in animal feed rather than injecting the animals.) Most of that stuff just gets passed through the animal's system and into the environment.

The given reasons, according to my informant, included incidents where people (maybe without insurance) were buying fish medicines for their own uses! Also, some people were actually found to be eating pet fishes which had grown too big for their facilities. That may stop the sale of medicated foods even sooner since some companies may not want liability suits based on what these guys are eating!

Signs of the times economically?

Ironically the shop guy thought the old time medicines with salt, dyes and metals would remain!

This does suggest that we as aquarists will want to refine what we do in terms of caring for our fish. It also means we need to examine what "holistic" things like Melafix and also what anthelmics can do.

I suppose for some people, they may want to hoard medicines. Some people wonder
about "freshness dates" on what is is the shops now. Don't know what those items would be like in the future.

Can you see the day when we would have to go to a vet for a Kanamycin prescription? There are a couple of items fish people have to get from a doctor now.

Don't know if this will necessarilly make the hobby less than it is. Too many times some fish
keepers make flash judgements and medicate in such a way as the fish are even worse off than they were. :(

What might you have heard?

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The Future of Aquatic Medicine? | 4 comments (4 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
I remember a few years ago.... (none / 0) (#1)
by guppygirl on Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 12:35:31 PM PST

Seeing a petition at my Vet's office.

I asked what it was for, and they told me that there was legislation pending that would prohibit
vets from dispensing medications that were manufactured to be used on humans.

It would include all antibiotics they currently use, penicillin (sp), and many other topical and allergy related items.

It would basically leave them with the flea, and worming products, and not much else.

And don't even get me started about what also being kicked around for "approved" veterinary surgical aids.

The legislation was being sought by drug companies to make some more cash....
Basically, they could rename, relabel, and resell what they already make.

Yes, my friends, "until money no longer makes the world go 'round" we can look forward to more of this type of HOOO-HAAA.

The bill was defeated, but I'm hearing a little
tinkle of it here. (no pun intended, Schnoodle)

I really don't believe that it's due to people using pet medications, or eating large goldfish.
(Quite possibly for people of other cultures this may be an acceptable form of raising their own food.)

I do remember as a cashier (long, long, time ago) cashing out an old, disheveled man who never bought anything other than cat food each week.

I believe this law, or a re-creation of it, could be making it's rounds again.

Maybe looking up some info on the FDA may not be a bad idea.

Anyway, that's my two cents.
gg
:-)



Wow! Call me gullible and offer a share of the (none / 0) (#2)
by unclescott on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 02:34:45 AM PST

Brooklyn Bridge for sale! Sounds like it's time to check other forums, lists and do a google search for FDA, aquarium medicines and maybe PIJAC. :)

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Let us know if you find... (none / 0) (#3)
by guppygirl on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 11:12:27 AM PST

anything out. I'd be very interested. I get the feeling that this time it may try to tag along on the end of another bill.

You know, "must have budget balanced on time... and, oh yeah, no more humanoid meds for doggies and kitties."

gg
:-)

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I was kind of hoping that someone with more (none / 0) (#4)
by unclescott on Wed Nov 26, 2003 at 02:11:22 PM PST

experience with veterinarians, maybe several someones who actually know the names of the medicines without fleeing to the manual, would take a look. ;)

In a couple of weeks though, I've got a chance to visit some of the good people at a leading public aquarium. A post-it note has been written to stir an all too fallible memory. Hopefully a couple of questions can be asked. :)

However there's tons of info and insights from other forum members here. If a certain big mouth were to shut up - just once, he might learn a lot more. ;)

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