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My First Babies
By erdemozkan, Section News Posted on Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 12:25:15 PM PST Tags: (all tags)

My First Babies. I'm so happy.

Hello everybody! My femaled bored me about breeding. I think she can't be pregnant. And her color became all black(All part of her body) So i bought a big, healty and pregnant female from the petshop. She is so big, longer than 5 cm. The shopper told me that there had been more than 7 cm long females, but had been sold. I wondered hot the females could growlke that size and he said me that they were grown in a pool.
My new female has brood more than 20 fry. But her belly is still big and i think she will breed more. I took first 9 of them to another bottle. (I cut the top half of a big pepsi bottle.)As i told at my firt log, i'm using raffia to make a place for fry to hide. I've seen i'ts working. But i'll see what'll happen to them.
UncleScott; you asked me if the raffia i spotting. For about three weeks, i haven't seen any spotting. My new female seems still pregnant. Much time passes between her breeding parties. For example three were born and half an hour later 2 were born. Is it possible that she'll breed tomorrow and the next days? I took 9 fry to the bottle because i'm frightened about the fry in the tank. I've got very small (about 12 lt) tank. It was my breeding tank 12 years ago. I know i have to buy a big tank and i'll buy a new one about 60 lt big. But i don't have enough money to buy the tank and the equipments at the same time. In the tank there are two females and one male. My old female tried to eat the fry but the they could hide in raffia. I took my goldfish out of the tank to his old glass bowl. I wish my babies will grow up and swim happily in my new tank. How much time do they need to grow not to be eaten by the adults? Thanks for your comments.

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My First Babies | 8 comments (8 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

congrats (none / 0) (#1)
by Phry on Wed Oct 15, 2003 at 11:20:34 PM PST

Erdemozkan,
She probably won't breed for more than one day, but it is possible. If she still looks very, very large you may want to add aquarium salt and raise the temperature slightly to help her deliver the rest.
To make sure they're not eaten, wait until your fry are bigger than the mouths of the older guppies. Generally two weeks is a good bet. As long as you feed all the fish well and keep raffia in your tank, though, you should not have any trouble at all.

Congratulations Dad! ;) (none / 0) (#2)
by unclescott on Fri Oct 17, 2003 at 01:19:39 AM PST

Your comment about that pond raised female echoed my thoughts about a very large female guppy, strong and perfectly built I saw at a show about a month ago. (She took best in a class in a general club show.) It turns out she was a pond raised fish too. I don't think the males and their tails always turned out quite so well.

Room, lots of food, aeration from the wind, sunshine, plants to nibble rotifers and other microfoods and "water changes" via the weather evidentally make for very robust fish!

You sound like you are really on your way to doing well with them. Phry has some good advice to consider too.

Guppies are browsers by the way. At least partly vegetarians, they are always looking for food. (Omnivors, like herbivors, have an intestinal tract longer than their body length and need to work to keep it full.) If possible (do as I say, not as I do) several small feedings a day are better than one big feeding. Some of the show guppy breeders actually feed them five times a day. Others have set up an automatic feeder - a container of baby brine shrimp and a valve on a timer. That tiny valve opens for a few seconds every hour and dumps live baby brine shrimp into a tank. (A lot of water is changed to keep the salt level reasonable.)

Time challenged people like me (that sounds better than disorganized people) have been known to put a couple of fry in a daphnia culture. They eat what the daphnia (a freshwater crustacean which is very important in many food chains) are eating. Later they can eat the baby daphnia. They grow very quickly when literally swimming in food.

The daphnia life cycle is similar to that of the brine shrimp (Artemia species, several of them actually). Brine shrimp and daphnia are members of a large group of small crustaceans called claudocerans. There are several species and genus of Daphnia too. Both groups of animals are opportunistic filter feeders. In good times, females will parthenogenically (without sex) produce more females.

In bad times (drought, cold, heat, food depletion) they will produce both males and females. Those will sexually produce cysts or resting eggs. Daphnia eggs over winter here where ever the adult resided. In salt lakes people collect brine shrimp cysts by the tons. We know them as brine shrimp eggs.

A question for you: What foods do Turkish aquarists feed their guppies?

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Feeding Guppies In Turkey (none / 0) (#4)
by erdemozkan on Fri Oct 17, 2003 at 04:27:58 PM PST

***Most of the aquarists where i live (i think all of them) told me that they're buying guppies from distributors. Because it's very for them to buy. They sell a guppy about .70 $ to 1 $. Here it's a hot place, still above 30 C degrees. So we can't find brine shrimp or any other live food. Some shops sell dry or canned dead live food. Their advice for feeding guppies is flake food. All of them think that TetraMin is the best one for the guppies. What do you think about it? I want to feed my guppies with live foods? Can you please tell me how i can produce live foods easily? Last night i went to a shop and saw that they were feeding the guppies with ta mixture of flake food, tubifex & etc. But they're adult fish. They seemed me happy about that food.
***I have more than 60 fry babies as i could count. I told it to the shopper and he wanted to buy the babies when they're 4 weeks old for .15 $/one young guppy. I think of selecting some (about 10 of them) good ones and selling the rest to the shopper. My old female which didn't breed died today. I saw her trying to kill herself in the raffia labyrinth. I took her form there but she contiuned to do again. At last she out herself on a floating amazon plant leaf. I found herself laying there dead when i came home back. She seemed very old when i first bought it 3 weeks later but pregnant,too. Then i understood she hadn't been pregnant. Her waist was belt down, badly. I think the shopper used her for breeding and at the end of her life sold it to me. Her belly was very white when i took herself out of the tank. The new female (which brood newly) and the male and the all fry in the tank seem very healty. The adults do not eat the fry. I feed them three times a day with flake food. I've heard that some feeding the guppies with boiled spanish or cabbage. Do you suggest it? And if you suggest, in what size?
***What do you recommend to make plants bigger?
***Can you send me the pictures of the fish you've got from Turkey? my email adress is erdemozkan@3asoftek.com

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Livebearers and Parental Credit (none / 0) (#3)
by unclescott on Fri Oct 17, 2003 at 01:28:54 AM PST

That "Congratulations Dad" caught my lady's eye as she ambled by. We looked at each other and both chuckled.

Back when we were dating, I dropped by her house one afternoon. Her Mom (who wasn't too sure about this guy anyway) asked, "What's new?"

"Oh, I'm a father!"

The shocked look on her face suggested that she was seriously considering where to quickly find a shotgun or maybe a howitzer.

The tension cleared quite a bit when I added,

"Yeah, there were over a dozen baby black mollies!"

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Reminds me of when I was a teen.... (none / 0) (#5)
by guppygirl on Wed Oct 22, 2003 at 09:58:18 AM PST

One day a note was handed to my teacher, in my classroom in high school just before the bell rang.

He quickly explained to me that I needed to leave, that my mother would be out back to pick me up in a few minutes.

He told me the message said, 'she needed me for an emergency'.

I was puzzled, but hurriedly packed my books into my backpack, while he kept saying, "Go, Hurry, Hurry"

Well as I was leaving the classroom, the bell rang, and many of the kids followed me to the back doors to maybe see what was going on, (and how I was getting out of school for the rest of the day).

My mother came careening around the cars in the parking lot and actually skidded to a halt.

She yelled out the window, "Karen I need you!!Hurry, she's having her babies right NOW!!!"

Well, that explained it to me, and I jumped in the car as the other kids oohed and aahhed.

Little did they know, it was a guppy...

Yes, my mother, (who had been a labor and delivery nurse) was one COOL MAMMA!!!!

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What a riot! (none / 0) (#6)
by Angelee on Fri Dec 05, 2003 at 06:11:23 PM PST

Yesterday, trying to explain that the reason I was late for my economics class and speech was that "we" were delivering babies. I'll never forget the look on her face when she found out it was one of my fish!
"The Rocky Mountain Gupster" ANGELEE
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Back when I was purposely setting up a lot of (none / 0) (#7)
by unclescott on Fri Dec 05, 2003 at 07:29:08 PM PST

killies to spawn, we would pick the eggs off of the spawning mops every day or so and gather 20-100 eggs in a small flat container. Infertile eggs would be eye-droppered out the first couple of days. If one or two hatched after two weeks, the others could be drawn out, along with some water using a turkey baster and put into a medicine vial. One breathed a little CO2 in there, capped it, put them in a pocket and went about one's business. The carbon dioxide, motion and body heat usually triggered or "forced" the other embryos into hatching. They needed to be gradually cooled down and removed within a day so they wouldn't suffocate.

Sometimes I would plunk a vial in my pocket and scramble off to school. Imagine what it does to a class to have the teacher, absentmindedly pull a medicine bottle from his pocket, go hummm and announce that he's a parent again. That was usually followed by the manditory passing of the vial around the room.

Disconcerted a bunch of history teachers and profs at a luncheon that way too.

On the rare occasion that teacher wore a sport coat, it became common knowledge there were too many vials of eggs hatching to carry just with shirt and slacks. Years later, while covering for another staff member on lunch room duty, a young lady came up and asked if she could ask a personal question. "Sure, probably... :) " "Are you the guy who walks around with fish eggs in his pockets?"

It could have been worse. ;)

A.T.B.

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Out of the mouths of children huh?(laughing) (none / 0) (#8)
by Angelee on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 03:58:59 PM PST

"The Rocky Mountain Gupster" ANGELEE
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