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God, and what do I come back to?? | 13 comments (13 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

Re: Nancy, concerning your aquarium... (none / 0) (#8)
by Fishes4Nancy on Tue May 27, 2008 at 01:42:50 PM PST

even though i'm basically talking to my self now...YAY! the babies are 5 days old now!! and all four are still alive! and starting yesterday, the babies started getting their black markings! i'm expecting them to be leopard patterned. they are getting black markings, concentrated o their fins but also their bodies. i can't believe how quickly they got them! the ich is also clearing up a bit. the gourami still has a few spots, and the larger female guppy (recently named Thisbe) was just flashing against the ceramic pot, but everyone seems to be better on the whole. still a ways to go. anyways, after adding fungus clear (not only did the jungle brand Ich Clear recommend adding jungle Fungus Clear to guard against secondary infections, but my gourami got a few mysterious patches), the gourami seems quite miserable. i know for a fact that the two meds are safe with each other, but the gourami stays in his teritory (the upper-right of the tank) and pretty much only breathes through his labyrinth. he's slightly sluggish and keeps his fins clamped some of the time. he was perfectly fine until i added the fungus meds. i think he just dislikes the chemicals in the water, but they are necessary, especially for him. i don't think it is a medical problem, because fungus clear actually claims to treat clamped fins. i'm sure it's just discomfort. also, ammonia had a bit of a spike from the added bioload, but nothing dangerous, and it should go down after the saturday water change and with the adjusting nitrogen cycle.

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Re: Nancy, concerning your aquarium... (none / 0) (#10)
by New Guppy Momma on Wed May 28, 2008 at 04:23:40 AM PST

If you think your male guppy's bad you should see my male mollie (my lyretail, my silver sailfin passed away about 2 months ago). He's always after one of his 3 girls. But the black Yucatan mollie isn't part of his harem. Guess I need to get her her own husband.

Congrats on the guppy babies. My 6 males I put in the Beast are all showing yellow tails and snakeskin bodies. They'll go to the pet store hopefully in the next month. They're about 4 months old.

As for your gourami he'll stake out a territory and tend to stay there. And mine (have 2 right now. a dwarf platinum and a tiny honey) always seem to come to the top to breathe. As for him and the fungus meds I think your right that he just doesn't like his water medicated. That or he was actually sicker than you thought and he's resting and healing.

Good luck tho with your fish.
I just lost a platy yesterday. He was clamped and sunken belly for a day or two and then just went belly up. Oh and I lost a moon a few weeks ago to dropsy.
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)
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Hope that the diseases and their effects do (none / 0) (#9)
by unclescott on Tue May 27, 2008 at 08:24:03 PM PST

continue to go away. More than one partial water change a week (if you can let enough treated water sit for a day or two) is ok. You may have to add a 1/3 medication dose with a 1/3 water change if the instructions on the treatment suggest a certain time period and the change is done before that time is up. Then of course change away with the treated water and if you use activated carbon in the filter, put that back in to absorb the rest of the medications.

As for the male guppy really pursuing the female, female guppies are most likely to be fertilized within 24 hours of dropping. Some would say that is usually the only time she can be inseminated. Females automatically (it is not a matter of choice for her) release a pheromone which "tells" the male guppies that she is ready for mating (as if the males needed any more motivation). That may be necessary in a stream system where dispersed guppies must hide out some but seems a little "much" in an aquarium.

Syracuse was great. Beautiful city, neat campus, though we struggled to find our way around in the rains last Thursday. I realize that it isn't always easy just jumping in a car and running up to a show.

Googling Syracuse, New York Killifish show or Syracuse, NY fish show would have gotten you on a site (the AKA site) which gave details. Theoretically everyone should be registered and have paid a fee to help defray the bills. However if a visitor asks for an attendee, the attendee will be able to usher visitors around the fish room and take a peak at the fish sale room after the rotation of people is done about lunchtime.

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Re: Hope that the diseases and their effects do (none / 0) (#11)
by Fishes4Nancy on Wed May 28, 2008 at 04:41:41 AM PST

yes well, lucky me. i hate petsmart. i'm surprised no one has just torched that place. Pontoufle (pon-TOOF) the gourami has hexamita. the internal type. awesome. i have no idea when i can pick up the meds. i have to go to a viewing today and a funeral tomorrow ( my singing coach died), and friday after school i am going to stay at my friend's house for the weekend, because my parents are driving to Indiana to see my sister's friend's highschool graduation. i could try for after school monday, but either way, we're looking at quite a time gap here, and i don't know if he is going to make it. hes throughly miserable. i expected him dead this morning. he was barely moving last night. just floating in his territorial corner, fins clamped, poo stringy, and practically belly up. he seems slightly better this morning, but i know his condition is getting better obviously, because he isn't medicated. jungle makes some medicated food for internal/external parasites, including hexamita, but again, by the time i can get it for him, he may no longer need it. of course, i want to treat everyone else for this now. cheers petsmart! what a great establishment!

one question: since the babies are in a net breeder in this tank, i feel i should treat them as well. would it be safe to feed them the medicated fish food, in ground up form?

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Re: Hope that the diseases and their effects do (none / 0) (#12)
by New Guppy Momma on Wed May 28, 2008 at 07:13:20 PM PST

Yep feed them what you would be giving the other's.
As for the Hexamita I had a bout with it when I started up my Pennsylvania incarnation of the Beast. A swordtail I had brought it with him.

Jungle Labs Parasite Clear worked well. I did 2 treatments (48 hours and a 25% water change between doses).
As for a temporary fix try treating with the Fungus Clear. It has a few of the same meds as Parasite Clear. The Fungus Clear is actually what worked in my Texas Beast when I had Hexamita. Try daily treatments with that (25% water changes would have to be daily as well). Or just treat with the Fungus stuff every other day (48 hours and the 25% water change between). Then you should only need one dose of the Parasite Clear (if needed) when you can get it.

I keep stocked up on Parasite and Fungus Clears.

Good Luck.
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)
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Terrific idea! We can't plan for everything but (none / 0) (#13)
by unclescott on Thu May 29, 2008 at 08:19:44 AM PST

one or two treatments probably could be kept on hand (and out of the way - thinking of little kids and clumsy guys like me). Having a little aquarium or sea salt on hand is good. Baking soda can be shared with the kitchen. One could keep some Acriflavin for treating velvet (killies, bubblenest builders like Bettas and anabantids, rainbowfish...), Ich treatment for livebearers, a broad spectrum internal parasite treatment for all new fish in quarantine...

Salt and the medicinal dyes probably last the longest though the latter may also be carcinogens and should be handled as little as possible. Stuff in powdered form (as from chemical supply houses) lasts longer than liquids. Probably all will last longer if out of the sun and stored at "coolish" room temperatures.

One liquid anthelmintic solution (Praziquantel mixed from the dog de-wormer Drontal) is to be kept in the refrigerator. That would sure surprise a midnight snacker! ;) But the point here is not to make sure that all family members are free of flatworms, but we might even check the manufacturer's site for, or ask the vendor what, would be the best way to store the specific treatment. :)

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