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I have a mosquito guppy crossbreed and I bred its sister but the babies look different | 25 comments (25 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
the big box stores are owned by corporations (none / 0) (#21)
by unclescott on Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 03:21:13 PM PST

who often deal with a specific wholesaler, that may also be owned by the company. Local employees are stuck with whatever corporate policy they have. I would like to think I might do some creative trading for neat new fish, but probably that fouls up their inventory. ;)

Unfortunately (from the perspective of the aquarist) they miss out on the opportunity for some neat fish they can't get. And as mentioned local fish have grown up in the local water supply  often are healthier and should adjust more easily to local aquariums.

Gray guppies have a fair amount of melanin (black) pigment. Those spots make their bodies look gray. I'm familiar with gold, which has a lot fewer spots and albino, which isn't supposed to have any melanin spots.

Obviously the fewer or smaller black pigment cells or chromatophores, the lighter the guppy's skin. That would also apply to the gravid spot and if the fry are consistent, the fry's golden coloration would also be quite light. I have never intentionally bred a gray to a gold but I would guess her spot (with the gray fry) would be a tad darker.

I did have to look up blonds. Is this pretty much the image of your blond?
http://www.pbase.com/tomsview/image/43598336

The site below suggests that blonds don't have fewer dark cells, but that their gray pigment cells are much small than usual. That is interesting because the overall effect is much the same as having even fewer (regular black) cells as in the case of the golds and they are supposed to be even lighter in color. Not surprisingly the gravid spots and fry follow suit.

grayhttp://guppyplace.tripod.com/Colours.html

The albinos of course have no melanin cells at all. Some people who study fish speak of degrees of albinism and might include all melanin reduced fish in that crowd. I was also surprised to learn from a James Langhammer presentation that different gene or gene combinations may control albinism differently in different guppy strains!

If we keep our regular gray guppies over a really light-colored gravel or sand, those guppies will show a little lighter color. Their systems automatically attempt to adjust to the substrate (often the gravel or glass). That is why we keep them with darker gravel if we want their colors to really shine. (Of course decorations such as plants and faithful water changes play their parts too.) I'm surprised by some shops that use mostly lighter gravel. I guess they can see and remove dirt more easily and can more conveniently inventory the fish, but they lose a selling point.

I believe the tenancy to show dark colors from the dorsal view and light to white colors from the ventral view is called countershading. This helps shield them from predators. Especially if there is some cover, it is very hard to see a still fish in water with a muddy bottom. Since the sky is light, might undersides present less of a silhouette.

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Re: the big box stores are owned by corporations (none / 0) (#22)
by josh117 on Fri Jul 20, 2007 at 04:00:24 PM PST

that guppy is close to mine exept mine kept its fry for about 12 weeks and the spot became ruby red like it is now and it grew amazingly large not being virgin but its mother had a black spot and was a very small one im wondering how it couldbe like that because they are exactly alike

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Her mother probably had one gene for gray G (none / 0) (#23)
by unclescott on Sat Jul 21, 2007 at 06:05:46 AM PST

on the body body and one for blond. The father was either blond or Gb (grey blond) and the b sperm fertilized a blond egg and that was her. (The capital initial is the dominant gene.)

Is she red? Then the coloration of the gravid spot would be expected.

http://www.fullredguppy.com/gup6.jpg

If she does not have any red in her, pick up the frequency of partial water changes and watch her carefully. Any extra TLC is good. Probably she's ok, but the coloration worries me a bit.

All the best!

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By the way, this thread has been interesting (none / 0) (#24)
by unclescott on Sat Jul 21, 2007 at 06:09:31 AM PST

and is increasingly a lot of fun for me. We are however wandering from the original themes.

It is your call, as to whether to continue here or starting - as a diary. Then we have a little more space on the page. :)

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Re: By the way, this thread has been interesting (none / 0) (#25)
by josh117 on Sat Jul 21, 2007 at 08:23:17 AM PST

yeah it has been intresting ill start a diary

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I have a mosquito guppy crossbreed and I bred its sister but the babies look different | 25 comments (25 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
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