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Levamisole Hydrochloride killed our fish | 23 comments (23 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Another probably irrelevant thought. Was there (none / 0) (#22)
by Katastic01 on Mon Apr 30, 2007 at 07:00:21 AM PST

I had the water tested at our LFS so I trusted the numbers were correct.  The kid that did it may  have read/written it incorrectly.  I have a canister filter that just runs the water through sponge and carbon.  It's nothing too fancy.

As for the fish, we made the decision to put them down.  They just aren't doing all that well.  Between the Camallanus and the medication I think it's just been too much for them to live a healthy, normal life.  Especially since the treatment, when done correctly, is very stressful to them.  The expelling of the worms is hard on them, and even if they expel some of the worms, they may not get them all out.  All these things are painful for the fish.  I would rather they go peacefully and quickly than going after a lifetime of pain.  They were good little fish.  

I appreciate all of your time and help.  This was the only place I could go to even begin trying to fix the problem.   No one at the fish stores I went to had even heard of Camallanus.  They either shrugged at me or started telling me to buy a bunch of different medications just hoping one would work.  I was in over my head when this whole thing hit.  I will start over and am going to work closely with our LFS (not Petsmart) to get it done correctly.  I am going to spend today getting the tank torn down and cleaned out.  Maybe my next problem will be finding out who wants guppy fry.  

Thanks again.  I will be checking in daily to read up on the latest news.  

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I can sure understand your frustration and (none / 0) (#23)
by unclescott on Mon Apr 30, 2007 at 08:44:29 AM PST

sadness of watching those adult guppies struggle so. And we do sometimes have to figure when the cost is way beyond reasonable (sez the man whose wife took a gerbil to the vet's.)

Note that the guppies would have died anyway without treatment. So would have the fry.

I have been wondering about an aged guppy female I was given. She never did drop (rats!), has obviously been aging beyond whem she could have fry and has had her own small tank for months. I toyed with the idea of putting her in a jar with a little dissolved clove oil and anesthetizing her. Evidently a little drinking alcohol is needed to dissolve the clove oil and that is the more often recommended approach these days, though a quick blow to the head (unpalatable for many folks) or leaving the tank out on a very cold night is still ok by Terry Fairfield.

I kept her and even fed her live food the evening before she died Saturday. Her's was such a gorgeous strain (red delta and red-albino delta), that is why I took her in. I do regret that she never dropped.

If your guppy fry were with the adults when they were treated, they should be fine. They probably had tiny, larval Camallanus within them and those should have been successfully treated. You may find fry hard to give away. Most people prefer that you do the work of raising them to a more attractive stage. ;)

If you can do a near tear-down and keep the fry in the tank, they should thrive. (Or tear the tank down, keep the gravel wet and return the fry with some treated, seasoned water. Feed lightly at first. A few growing plants will absorb most ammonia given off by a few fry.) Just add as nearly as much treated and seasoned water as is in there each day or two until it is full. I know that doesn't do your HOB filter much good. Just rinse it out and leave it for now.

And while fry are not nearly as interesting by themselves as adult guppies, they would thrive in a larger aquarium than we many times give them. And there is a wonder in watching them mature.

In a month the females wild begin showing their gravid spots. Not too long afterwards little males will court and pester them. In a couple of months more they will be maturing into adult "millions fish." You may recognize young males reminiscent of those lost. That may salve some of the stress you have gone through recently. After all of the research, work and asking around, you deserve nice things happening in an aquarium. :)

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