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Good to be back! | 4 comments (4 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Good to be back! (none / 0) (#1)
by miskairal on Sun Nov 19, 2006 at 02:43:12 PM PST

G'day Raider (waving to you from over here)

Nothing wrong with having feeders and I hope they do better for you. I'm finding it's not the looks of a fish that keeps you in the hobby anyway but more the personality of a fish.

Cheeriio
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Good to hear from you raiderfan! I was wondering, (none / 0) (#2)
by unclescott on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 08:21:58 AM PST

not long before you posted, how your semester and the football season were going for you. Considering how active you were on GL during the summer and how active you had become at school, it was not a surprise that you posted less here.

Sorry about the demise of the previous guppies. Once they get through the trauma and any inherited diseases as feeders, common guppies are indeed tougher than the fancies. If I cut down to one tank, it would have Endler's or some Fp. gardneri. One needs a tank of colorful, active fish which are fun to watch and which will replace their numbers.

The 29-gallon tank is good for a busy person in that, aside from the greater viewing area, larger aquariums are more stable in terms of chemistry and temperature. You still need to do those partial water changes of course. :)

You probably have your old ten-gallon, which could be for quarantining any new acquisitions. And when it is clean and not used for that, what a great place to treat and season water! :)

All the best!
unc

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Re: Good to hear from you raiderfan! I was wonderi (none / 0) (#3)
by RaiderFan92 on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 03:10:22 PM PST

Hey unclescott! Long time no see! Or post..... or something........

OK *sighs* One of my feeders just died. That leaves me down to two guppies, one feeder, one fancy. I just dont know at all what Im going to do.

I have one last thing I want to ask about before I just give up. I checked my pH and it was 8.4. As I told you before, my science teacher has kept a mob of feeder guppies in his tanks so I know they can live in this water, but what I dont know is if Im putting them in pH shock. Iv heard of it before, but not that much. If I am putting them into pH shock, how can I prevent that?

Sorry, but this is getting crazy. I take great care of my tank and water conditions, and get rewarded with dead fish.

And is there any other livebearer that would live the water like mine?
"The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself."-FDR. True, unless your playing against the Oakland Raiders.
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8.4 is a high pH, but guppies, acclimated over (none / 0) (#4)
by unclescott on Mon Nov 20, 2006 at 06:38:54 PM PST

hours or even a day, can get used to it. Where that pH really gets dicey is that if there is any ammonia in the water, the higher the pH, the more toxic the ammonia. Plants and a few more water changes in a month might help.

The other thing to realize about feeders is that they may have been really abused via crowding and chilling. They also have been exposed to all of the common fish diseases. They really, really need to be treated for parasites while in quarantine. Otherwise they will take their problems straight to the fish in the aquarium.

There are some livebearers (northern swords, some really plain Poeciliopsis, a mollie or two and some of the inland Goodieds that come from high pH waters. They are also probably more sensitive to ammonia than guppies. With pollution, there are fewer and fewer of these fish in the wild, in part because of that.

I too still need to work harder on water changes. The tanks with the healthiest fish are those with good plant growth 9and good lighting) and I think it is because of their ability to take ammonia straight out of the water column. Because those are fairly attractive tanks, they also get a little more maintainance attention.

If you have just a couple of fish, be careful that you aren't over feeding them. Feeding modest poulations really may mean watching to see that they have gobbled up everything offer in 60 to 120 seconds.

Don't get any more fish until those two seem well established. An ammonia kit may run $6-8. One for ammonia, nitrites and nitrates would run more, but less per test. High reading for any of those may accompany declines in fish vigor. Maybe something could be worked out with "Santa." ;)

All the best!

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