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Fry and Birth | 12 comments (12 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Thank you GG. (none / 0) (#6)
by GuppyLuver15 on Sat Feb 19, 2005 at 09:29:03 AM PST

Oh I see. But that wasn't really my question...
Should I have a filter for the fry?
Or shouldn't I?
Also should I get a breeding tank for my fish tank?
Would it be better than putting a lot of plants for the fry so that they can hide?
Thanks!
Guppy Luver
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Yes,for sure you should get a... (none / 0) (#7)
by fisher on Sat Feb 19, 2005 at 10:51:43 AM PST

filter or else the water will get mirky and very dirty. I already tried getting away with no a filter. It does not work:o)

Fisher

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Re: Yes,for sure you should get a... (none / 0) (#8)
by GuppyLuver15 on Sat Feb 19, 2005 at 02:29:34 PM PST

Oh I see, well would it work if I put like a piece of panty hose and tie it with a rubber band so it would stay around the filter sucky thing and the fry would be too big to get sucked up through the panty hose holes?
Thank you.
Guppy Luver
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That is a creative solution. But a power filter on (none / 0) (#9)
by unclescott on Sat Feb 19, 2005 at 11:40:13 PM PST

a small tank is like swatting flies with a chevy. The sponge filters are great biological filters, they don't suck fish in and a lot of micro-foods may come to grow on them. If fry are pecking on them, they aren't bored. (Look to see if they are writing their names on the side of a tank - then they are bored!) If the fry are foraging on the sides of sponge filters, they are looking for things like rotifers - great dietary suppliments! (Do a Google image search for rotifers - they are interesting to look at in their own right.)

All the best!
u.s.

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Re: That is a creative solution. But a power filte (none / 0) (#11)
by GuppyLuver15 on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 03:29:30 PM PST

I actually just figured out right now that I don't need to worry about the filters becuase I have one that is a long tube and shoots bubbles out from this spongey thing. Anyway the fry might die if they swim into the tube which is highly unlikely becuase bubbles shoot out of it.
Guppy Luver
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"one that is a long tube and shoots bubbles (none / 0) (#12)
by unclescott on Mon Feb 21, 2005 at 12:18:18 AM PST

out from this spongey thing..."

Would that resemble the sponge filter 3rd down the page at the following addy? :)

http://www.franksaquarium.com/sponge_filters.htm

Doing a Google image search will give you dozens of filters that run on the same premise. Water is drawn through the sponge, good bacteria settles on the many surfaces and really toxic ammonia is broken down into the merely toxic nitrates. Other good bacteria breal that down into the somewhat less toxic nitrite.

For a while it was popular to put a sponge mat over the entire undergravel filter. Lots of surface area! For a while they are terrifically efficient. Imagine they are harder to clean with a gravel vacuum than a regular u.g. filter. I wonder if the mat and the u.g. filter should be pulled up and rinsed every couple of months.

You still need frequent water changes for your tank or in time the accumulated nitrites will prevent the hemogloben from being able to carry all of the oxygen it can (among other problems.) Fry will stunt. Eventually after a period, all will suffocate. :(

When that sponge is cleaned out, just squeeze it enough to get rid of the really dirty stuff. It shouldn't leave a cloud when put back in the tank, but should not be "new" in color.

See http://honors.montana.edu/~weif/firsttank/sponge.phtml
The rest of the site may prove useful too.

If you visit sites which picture large guppy fishrooms, you will notice that a number of breeders, raising guppies for competition, use and recommend sponge filters.

I use the model alluded to above quite a bit. The more expensive ones do have more surface area and should be even more effective.

Water shouldn't thunder through them. Surface areas need contact time with the ammonia to be effective. A string of bubbles should be about right. :)

Don't use Sponge Bob as a filter. One of the few things - thankfully - which probably hasn't come out in a Sponge Bob motif. ;)

All the best again,
u.s.

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Re: That is a creative solution. But a power filte (none / 0) (#10)
by miskairal on Sun Feb 20, 2005 at 02:45:15 PM PST

I've got one of those little clear plastic corner filters that go inside the tank and you put filter floss or charcoal or whatever you want in them. It runs off an air pump and is very cheap to buy. You can get little tiny ones as well.

I use it in my 14 litre, (3-4 gallon) quarantine/hospital tank and it's nice and gentle.
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