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Plastic "Box Of Death" | 6 comments (6 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
I have two "boxes of death" (5.00 / 3) (#3)
by nancylb999 on Thu Dec 22, 2005 at 10:35:34 PM PST

I have two "boxes of death".

And both have served me well.

But, perhaps, I use them in a different manner than is intended.

I let the females drop in the tank. Previous experience has shown the female will either die, freak out, or drop way too early (stillborns or underdeveloped fry & embryos) should they be placed in the "box 'o death".

Once I notice the little ones gingerly avoiding consumption from their tank mates, I install the plastic device and start netting them up into it.

I turn one of the vented sides towards the filter, to allow a steady flow of water through it. Both of the container I have initially came with lids, but I no longer use them (little baby fry don't tend to "jump ship").

I also use a small dropper to suction up any waste from the bottom of the device, at least every other day, to keep it relatively clean.

After a couple weeks, I transfer the fry into the other "box o' death", removing the one they were in to give it a thorough cleaning. They will remain in this one for another couple weeks until the next cleaning cycle.

At one point, I had opted for leaving fry to their own devices, and seeing if they could survive within the tank. None did, they were all consumed within the first week. As a result, I have opted to separate them in this manner, until they are too big to fit into their parent's mouths.

I have observed a 95%+ survival rate using the above method.

Needless to say, I now have way too may fish. From the original 7 guppies, I have 60+. What to do next? That's another discussion... ;)

Wishing all the best holiday season to you and your families!

Cheers,
Nancy.


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Re: I have one (none / 0) (#5)
by livebearer fan on Fri Jul 07, 2006 at 02:43:35 AM PST

ok mine sounds differnt to all yours tho mine doesnt have a v shaped part it is just a plastic box with a seperater that tha fry fall through and an optionalo divider so you can put two fish in there at the same time, is this the same plastic box of death or a differnt one? is this one any better?
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Re: I have one (none / 0) (#6)
by James on Sun Sep 10, 2006 at 08:55:30 PM PST

The one I purchased was made by Lee's Aquarium, it's listed as catalog number 10250. It's called 2-Way Breeder, Small.

The box has the handles/'pontoons' on the side to provide air pockets for flotation. The sides are completely vented to allow for water to flow through. The top, in fact, has vents in it as well. The V-Shaped divider in this one is an insert. You put the divider in, then place momma in the device on top of the divider. In theory the fish fall through the divider when she gives birth, keeping them from her. When she's done giving birth you remove her from the trap, then remove the divider and leave the device floating to provide a safe haven for the fry.

Now, that's how it works in theory... In practice some of the other posts about these breeders sound spot on. I just had an experience where a platy placed in a breeding trap scarfed her own fry because they do have a tendancy to find their way up through the divider, once there they're in close quarters with a larger fish who has no maternal instinct as we know it... she sees something taking up her space and she's hungry.

Another poster mentioned that the surface area seems low, and if you place the container the way it's displayed I can see where that would be an issue... however, if you were to place the breeder in the water and tip it so that most of the air can escape from the pockets provided by the handles it will sink down nicely to the surface, if you have a strong filter current you can even get it placed so it's completely submerged by the flow from the filter but still remains at the surface. This would provide significantly more room for the dropping fish than letting it float where the air pockets would form normally and increase comfort... somewhat.

I currently have two molly fry in one of these breeding traps and they have been there for a few days at this point. I placed a piece of hair algae in there with them and it's a lot easier to make sure they have access to a food supply in a segregated area of the aquarium. I'll be able to report success or failure in keeping them in there within a few weeks. On the other hand, I refer back to the instance I just had where I know that a platy female dropped in my breeder because I saw at least one fry overnight, but when I returned the following morning he no longer existed.

I think the traps are probably useful, but it depends greatly on circumstances. Perhaps there is something to be said for making sure the lights stay out when the traps are in use and it's possible that we could get one some day made with clear plastic on one side and solid colored plastic on the others so that we could see in to observe the fish/fry but remove the external environmental factors such as the fish feeling trapped out in the open?

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