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Camallanus | 19 comments (19 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: Camallanus (none / 1) (#6)
by inkmaker on Tue Nov 22, 2005 at 09:23:00 PM PST

Well, thanks Scott for the intro and the suggestion to treat everything. I have posted most of the results of treatments for the Nematode on my Fish page at  -->  
http://www.inkmkr.com/Fish
look in the Camallanus section and comments. I even have some decent pictures of a female.
The out look for the group of tanks as far as being exempt from the Nematode infestation is bleak. It doesn't take much for the just released young first stage to get splattered from tank to tank. Some of the young require a secondary host to molt while others do not, so don't depend on the presence of cyclops or other carriers to supply the necessary host, often it is not necessary.

In the same way, the newly released first stage swimmers don't just die because they don't find a host, they just molt into the next stage and wait for a change in conditions. However ,this Nematode has not been found in mammals, so seldom worry there. (Don't go there)

The so far best treatment for the Nematode is Levamisol HCl, and yes I keep it for those in need. But forget the hospital tank or isolation. Once found in any environment it means it is in most everything that has common nets and nearby location. This is a facetious and infectious parasite. Only serious work to eliminate it is successful. I have helped many to kill off the noticed infestation only to be called upon later that year to provide more medication to take care of a new out spring without any additions of fish or plants.

The affect of Levamisole upon plants is minimal if at all. No one has ever mentioned it and I have never seen a problem. Frogs on the other hand offer some new territory and I would be interested to hear back the effect on them. As far as I have had reported, frogs are not suitable host. That advice I wouldn't trust. It is untested as far as I know and I have been through just about every paper publishes on this group of Nematodes.

 I have had some positive reports regarding cat fish and loaches that the drug of choice is not lethal . . . frogs ? don't know. I would treat everything that has had water and fish in it. Bleach and a good scrub down is an alternative followed by drying for 5 to 7 days. Lots of fish keepers use gravel and that really needs to be treated or pitched along with other tank decorations.

Right about keeping the filter and circulation going and remove the Charcoal! That will take out the medication. The water needs to move some to circulate the medication.

So many fish have been lost to killing the parasite within the fish that this needs to be mentioned. The death of a lot of intestinal parasites is often too much a load on the fish. The bacteria build up in the gut and there is no way to clean everything out. The use of live foods is important just to keep everything moving.

The next item which kills off a lot of fish is fresh water. So many tanks have had  no changes for months (18 to 24) and fresh water and a change in pH and salt concentration damage the gills so severely that the fish - even if the Nematode is removed, the patients die.

I would be glad to continue the conversation if needed, charles@inkmkr.com.
http://www.InkForYourPrinter.com



Re: Camallanus (none / 0) (#7)
by grizzly29 on Thu Nov 24, 2005 at 09:15:26 AM PST

     This is truely an effective cure for camallanus. In fact the only cure I've found that works. I'd suggest buying inkmakers Levamisole at once, removing the carbon and tossing everything (nets, siphons, decorations,etc.) into the tank with the med for treatment.  Good luck!

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Re: Camallanus (none / 0) (#8)
by wraith on Sat Nov 26, 2005 at 03:10:21 PM PST

6 days into treatment, and my tank looks cleaner than ever! The cloudy water only lasted 1 day, then cleared. I have only noticed one dead baby guppy, my frogs and loaches seem unaffected by the medication, healthy and thriving. My snails however are not doing as well. My apple snail babies that were under about 1.5cm have died. Maybe because of treatment, maybe due to sickness. However, if that's all I am going to lose in this process, that's not to bad!
Next tablet goes in on monday, hopefully everything will remain healthy. Haven't seen any other signs of camallanus, but I know the developement time is quite long, so 2 more weeks to go. So far so good!


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Really glad your tank and critters are doing (none / 0) (#9)
by unclescott on Sat Nov 26, 2005 at 09:46:26 PM PST

so well. I wouldn't even hazard a guess as to why the baby guppy died.

Charles noticed a while back that at a week, the pond snails being treated by an anthelmintic began to die off. That may be the fate of some of your snails. If it is just the younger ones, you will still have your breeders.

Did the instructions for your "pop, pop, fizz, fizz" suggest a second week? The older Jungle Parasite Guard recommended dosage for 4 days. If needed, a 50% water change and a second treatment could be made. I got the impression that water changes and carbon filtering should remove the treatment after that. The fish probably wouldn't be wiped out, but say goodbye to inverts.

More good news about using an anthelmintic. It can be effectively used against hydra. (Again drawing from the research of Charles and others) nothing else is as effective while leaving the plants and fish alone.

Just for the file. :)

All the best!
uncle

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Re: Really glad your tank and critters are doing (none / 0) (#10)
by wraith on Sat Nov 26, 2005 at 10:14:28 PM PST

thank you, so am I!
The jungle instructions are "one tablet per 10gl, may be repeated up to 2 times with 48 hours between treatments and a 25% water change. For anchor worms and fish lice, repeat treatment up to 3 times, using once a week with a 25% water change."
I figured that these worms were similar to the anchor worms, so I am going with the 3 week treatment.
As a side note, I left my live plants in the tank, and they are looking better now than they did before treatment........hmmm...not sure what that means! haa! Good to know though that this med will not harm them, and that I won't have to toss them.
As for my snails, the breeding was purely accidental. I didn't actually notice the eggs until they started to hatch! She had laid them in the lid of my tank, up in a far corner that I don't see until I remove the whole lid to clean it. What I was planning on doing with 100+ snails, I hadn't figured out yet. Needless to say, my snails have been seperated as I do believe I have enough in my tank now! So the loss of a few of them will not be to horrible, a little sad in a "poor things" kind of way though.

Thanks again for the new info U.S!

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