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New Guppy Owner- Very early death | 13 comments (13 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
Re: If the problem is not directly from the (none / 0) (#4)
by silentdante on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 01:20:17 PM PST

No need to feel mean-spirited.   We have basically given up on this batch of guppies, we're down to the last one and our hopes are not good for him.  We have a home testing kit for pH, Ammonia, and Nitrate, and noticed nothing out of the ordinary in the levels (though I was expecting ammonia levels to rise and didn't see this in my tank).  I am confident that I am reading the samples correctly, but I still feel like it should have changed when we added the fish.  I currently live in the Atlanta area (though I grew up in Iowa and am a life-long Cubs fan), so if you know of any resources around here, I'd love to hear about them.  Thanks for all your help so far, I'll keep updating as the situation progresses.

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Don't go away from Guppylog just because (none / 1) (#6)
by unclescott on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 03:35:19 PM PST

there are some local resources for you. We need all the input we can get and appreciate the good company, which happens by. :)

The only Atlanta aquarist I know of (other than a couple of people through books) is David Ramsey, a great guy who is into killies and N.A. native fishes. He isn't into guppies, though I'd bet he has had them and breeds Corys, but he is bright and gracious and has a nice web site. ;)
http://www.djramsey.com/tropfish/

There are several pretty useful lists of Aquarium Societies on-line. Let me mention for your benefit and the benefit of others:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/greatercity/links1.htm
http://www.ifocas.fsworld.co.uk/

There is, as I actually knew, an Atlanta Aquarium Society. Their site, down at the moment, is

http://www.atlantaaquarium.com/

Their contact person is:
Atlanta Area Aquarium Association
    George Libby
    1730 Rhett Butler Drive
    Lilburn, Georgia 30247
    (404) 978-2117

But wait! There is also a local guppy group, which I was unaware of! I hope Snellville is sort of close. ;)  (Having traveled 120 miles each way Saturday to and from an auction and 50 miles each way Friday night to get to my killifish club, I can appreciate traveling to fishy events. I know people on the great plains and even upstate New York who drive 6 hours each way to meetings or just for visits with other fish heads.)

Georgia Guppy Group
    2346 Hidden Lane, Snellville, GA 30078, Alan E. Opdyke, Phone: 770-484-3250, Fax : 770-484-3301. Meets the 3rd Saturday of every month at 1 PM.

There is also an IFGA associate, though the Deep South to me is probably like the Midwest to a lot of others and a huge area. So while they are not close to you, the IFGA end of the year celebration is a whole lot closer to you, than it is to me. ;)

Deep South Fancy Guppy Associates (IFGA) Sponsoring the IFGA  annual meeting (There national show at the end of the year.
Show Dates November 4th, 5th & 6th

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DSFGAgroup/

2562 Commanche Drive

Birmingham, AL. 35244

Norman Richardson 251-479-4838

nguppyman@aol.com

You mention growing up in Iowa. (I've been in Illinois most of my life, but have yet to grow up.) There are a couple of legendary aquarists and clubs from Iowa. Joanne Norton seems to have had more to do with organizing the ALA (American Livebearer Association) than anyone else. She was also very involved in developing and researching and publishing articles on many livebearer strains. I believe she was involved with the Central Iowa Aquarium Society. While it is no longer with us (too many aquarium societies have come and gone), they did some terrific things. One enduring contribution to the hobby (if my informant is correct) is they realized that the beautiful butterfly Goodied (endangered even then in Mexico and almost extinct in the wild now) had a very tenuous hold in the American hobby. They got several members to crank them out and send them around the country. It has been suggested that virtually all of the Ameca splendens in the U.S. hobby came from that stock.

Gene Lucas is a professor who is very involved in Betta genetics and who has written a column on Bettas with FAMA magazine for approaching 30 years.

I am acquainted with a couple of very talented and innovative guys out of the Cedar Rapids area. I owe them a lot for some of their insights and approaches to the hobby. There are still a couple of good aquarium societies in the Hawkeye State as well.

As a kid, lived six blocks from a big aquarium society and walked by the savings and loan building it met in, while walking to school. Nobody took out the Innes book or Axelrod and Vorderwinkler's Encyclopedia out of the junior high or high school libraries as often as this fish geek did. The month I left for college, someone mentioned that club to me! It was gone when I had time to look for it later. Isn't that the way!

All the best!
u.s.

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Re: If the problem is not directly from the (none / 0) (#5)
by silentdante on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 03:18:59 PM PST

Just a quick update- The algae eater is definitely a pleco- it matches the pictures and the receipt confirms it.  It also looks like tail rot is a likely culprit.  I just got back from returning the dead fish, and the others in the tank didn't look entirely healthy.  I'm going to try to get a picture of my ailing fish, so that you may be able to see something I'm not.  Thanks again!

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Re: If the problem is not directly from the (none / 0) (#9)
by silentdante on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 08:35:50 PM PST

Ok, I've posted a website showing pictures of the last two guppies from my tank.  One is in the late stages of his disease, the other has apparently not been affected yet.  Please take a look and let me know what this looks like to more experienced eyes.  You've all been wonderfully helpful so far. Here's the address:
   http://www.geocities.com/actordante
And U.S., it just so happens that I live right in Snellville!  What a coincidence!  

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You live in the town with the guppy club! (none / 0) (#10)
by unclescott on Mon Jan 17, 2005 at 09:17:12 PM PST

Wow! That's gotta be destiny! :)

I'm glad the LFS didn't stick you with an "algae eater." Sounds like they can be trusted at least that far.

Before our children were born, I moonlit one weekend day a week. Imagine the look on a guy's face when he said, "Could you sell me an algae eater?" I smiled and replied, "No."

Let the tank cycle a couple of weeks with the pleco. I would guess "most" of the organisms (bacteria) which started the tail rot would be gone. However the pleco could also carry them and to be safe you might want to treat the tank with an antibiotic. I'm not keen on flippantly treating an aquarium, but it would be nice to have a "clean" pleco and aquarium.

Maybe ask the people in that guppy club since they meet this Saturday. Be forewarned though, if you join, it will not be an especially cheap date. ;)

All the best!
u.s.

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Re: You live in the town with the guppy club! (none / 0) (#11)
by silentdante on Tue Jan 18, 2005 at 09:30:07 AM PST

Well, we're down to the last guppy, which, as of last night, was in remarkably good health (see the pictures at the address posted in my previous post).  I haven't been over to visit this morning, so things may have changed.  We also finally noticed a change in the ammonia level, so maybe the nitrogen cycle is starting to kick in.  Thanks to the good folks here, I now have confidence that I can eventually get a tank started and keep my little fish healthy.

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