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Algae | 5 comments (5 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
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by unclescott on Mon May 10, 2004 at 11:08:48 AM PST

In the tank with the Salvinia and Water Lettuce top cover, the hair algae has disappeared. A greenwater bloom is disappating.

The ditch moss (a moss found by a CKA member in a cattle watering trough which is so tough it will survive freezing in a Northern Illinois winter and come back strong next spring) is holding it's own. With the increased indirect light as summer comes on, the water lettuce are doubling their size.

Amazingly the Salvinia are turning brown and dying! As near as I can tell, the Water lettuce is sucking so many nutrients out of the tank that few other plants can compete! The fish are doing fine!

I knew that water hyacinth is a terrifically heavy feeder. Unfortunately it needs quite a bit of light and is something of a challenge to over winter indoors. Evidentally water lettuce falls into the same category. It will shrink, but not die off like the hyacinth.

When heavy feeders such as the water lettuce, water hyacinth, Salvinia and - oh yes - Amazon sword plants don't have enough food and light, they will dwarf. That is why I don't bother with sword plants anymore.

The moral of the story? Not all plants are compatible. Some will out compete the others. If that happens to you, don't go on a guilt trip - over that anyway. :)

There is even chemical warfare between plants. Chemicals are produced which inhibit the growth of other plants - including algae and even duckweed. Diana Walstad's Ecology of the Planted Aquarium spends some time on the phenomena of allelopathy, where some plants actually produce allelochemicals which can inhibit or even eliminate competing plant species.

That is why one seldom finds Val and Saggitaria side by side or water sprite and water wisteria (another Hygro) together. Ah there is so much to learn!

In the meantime, if you have water lettuce or water hyacinth, the roots are great places for fry to hide and forage. Those roots are also terrific spots for killies, goldfish or white clouds to hang their eggs. And algae may take a beating.

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Re: An addendum to the above: (none / 0) (#4)
by Geo3383 on Tue May 11, 2004 at 03:26:46 AM PST

i decreased the light and picked up some floating grasses from the local green house  [the lady there was very helpful and said she would be able to bring several more suitable aqua species the next time she gets her stock. she wasn't sure how the grass would do in a tank with a current something about the runners being broken off easily in a current. but with the addition of the grass and the decreased light the algea seems to have stoped growing and has actully died on one plant.

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Really cool geo! Are these what we would think (none / 0) (#5)
by unclescott on Tue May 11, 2004 at 09:18:58 AM PST

of as genuine grasses, rushes or that hair grass, genus Eliocharis?

Genuine grasses and a lot of pond plants need a lot of light. Many grasses will die if in water too long, however the "ponders" or pond people have discovered that barley or timothy hay, while rotting in a pond, produce something (An allelochemical?) which inhibits the algae. One can buy barley extract, but without heavy sunshine it seems unlikely to be much help inside except to acidify the water. (Guess who has a nice expensive bottle of barley extract!)

A number of house plants are rain forest plants from below the forest canopy. The yare "used" to less light and being in water. They will grow in filter boxes and other places where they can extend out of the water while "having their feet wet."

My Spathiphyllum (the plant which ate Park Forest and is working on upstate New York), Pothos and Phildendron do well this way. There are probably many others.

The underwater roots don't start as well from cuttings as land roots. So start the whole plant with the roots in water. The change will be amazing. (I root new water forms taking runners and sticking them in other tanks or a bowl. They will throw out roots.)

Also, if it is from a store, let it soak and grow by itself for a while. That should wash out any fertilizers or rooting hormones from the trade. Sometimes they can be found, very inexpensively at the end of a club auction, when everying is selling for 20 cents on the dollar anyway.

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