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Tank Setup | 11 comments (11 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)
Don't worry about the double entry. ;) (none / 0) (#3)
by unclescott on Tue May 11, 2004 at 08:59:50 PM PST

It is only natural to be a tad unsure when visiting a new site. (And I hold the record for, ahem, uninformed GL site comments with a diary entry a few days ago after having been here more than 9 months.)

We swung by Mr. Walton's place this evening. (I'm also legal as a fisherman and "bait collector" in out state for another year.) The underwater heater is a nice idea because it gives you some flexibility in terms of where you want to put it. I'd try to leave it where the flow from the filter, or filter intake, would wash across it. That should even out the temperature through out the tank.

It is not a huge model. (Should have looked at the wattage.) Is it rated at 75 watts? Not a big issue this time of the year, it should do fine later on so long as the tank is not put in a drafty area in the cold months. If your home is as warm as our is now, you may not even be able to set it until the tank temperature drops to 78, 77 or 76 degrees F.

Less space has been left in the top for heat to escape, water to evaporate or fish to escape through when we use those underwater heaters. They seem harder to break. Also little hands (or big hands in my old high school classroom) don't get to play with the settings.

Does your tank hood have a detactable panal on the back? Figure out where you want your filter and cut an opening for it. If that back panel is the grooved plastic, you might save the cut out in case you might want to use box or sponge filter sometime and just want to close the top. Probably you can slide that back panal sideways if you change sides with the filter. (I've gotta have a whole pile of those segments around here some where.)

The power filter probably has a cartrage with some floss and activated carbon in it. The carbon does some chemical filtration and will remove urine for a week or two. After that the surface of the carbon will join the floss as a biological filter, hosting "good guy" bacteria which will help break down fish wastes into less toxic materials.

Unless you want to spend a lot of money on inserts, I would keep an extra around for emergencies and just rinse the one in service off every week or two. That way you get any big things out it which were "mechanically" removed.

The most important thing that filter will do is move the water to the surface, exposing it to the air where oxygen can be absorbed and carbon dioxide released. The second most important thing it does is move the water over various surfaces (filter media, gravel, plastic or real plants and other structure) so some biological action can take place.

Cleansing the water is still in big part your responsibility via those partial water changes of 20 or 30% every week or so. One of the huge myths in the hobby is that one never has to change water.

There are a couple of water conditioners out now which claim that with their product, one will never have to change water. Those chemicals probably dissipate chlorine in new water and bind or lock the ammonia, nitrates and nitrites for a time. They will still gradually get released into the water.

I'm astonished that they even make those claims! There are resons which will absorb nitrogenous wastes (the very expensive polyfilter for instance), but those are for emergencies unless you have a big budget for the aquarium.

There is only one way to clean out a toilet. :0

If the light is a 15 watt bulb, you will have a hard time keeping many species of plants alive. You may opt for no plants, for plastic plants or for low light plants along with a floater which would be near the surface. Live plants would also require that such a light be on for 12 or more hours a day, unless you have a lot of dispersed light in the room. (Effective lights need to be a certain wattage, near the water, not obstructed by a dirty panel, and on a considerable length of time.)

My favorite cut rate, emergency plastic plant is one of those soapless plastic pot scrubbers from the grocery store. They should still be rinsed under the tap before you unravel them. Not fancy enough for one's living room. ;)

Please also take a look at

Guppy Plants and Low Light Plants
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Posted on Sat Sep 6th, 2003 at 02:24:23 PST  

All the best,
Scott Davis

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Thank You! (none / 0) (#4)
by girlysix on Tue May 11, 2004 at 09:42:09 PM PST

Thank you so much for your help! The back of the tank hood is solid with a couple of grooves. Cutting it should not be too difficult. I was just afraid that I was missing something. I didn't want to demolish my brand new tank. It's good to have confirmation that I am supposed to.

The kit came with a heater that suctions on the inside of the tank. I'm using it now to warm the cold water I filled the tank with. Also, there was a freak snow storm here today, so it's a bit cold out. I doubt it will get much use as the weather warms up.

I just want to clarify, I don't really need to replace the filter cartridge every two weeks as the packaging claims? I was a little concerned about the cost of constantly replacing it. If rinsing it out is sufficient, I'll certainly just do that.

I have to admit that I did linger near the miracle water treatment for a while. The claim on the one I saw was that you only have to do water changes every six months. I marvelled at the possibilities, but ultimately decided that it must be too good to be true. I did get some of the water conditioner that makes tap water safe. I'm not sure how necessary it is, but I figure it couldn't hurt.

I did opt for plastic plants at this point. I may make the switch later, but right now, just keeping the fish alive and happy should be enough of a challenge. I don't need the added pressure of living plants. I've never had much of a green thumb anyway.

Okay, I tried to go over my basic setup here so that if there are any problems with it, somebody can correct me. I think all my questions have been answered. Thank you so much for all your help! My fish will surely be grateful too!

Truly,
Sail

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Using the heater to warm the changing water (none / 0) (#5)
by unclescott on Tue May 11, 2004 at 10:03:57 PM PST

is a wise use of the heater! That is unusual even with experienced aquarists. If the water show a bunch of bubbles on the side of the container, refrain from adding it until the bubbles (nitrogen) go away.

You considered the water conditioner but "ultimately decided that it must be too good to be true." That is so true of  some aquarium produces, stock offers, lots of internet spam and not a few political promises. :)

"I think all my questions have been answered." Sp far so good then. If you have more questions, that just means that you are thinking and learning more about the hobby, which is a little bit science, a little bit art and quite a bit a craft.

Goodnight!
uncle scott

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The Big Fish Move (none / 0) (#6)
by girlysix on Wed May 12, 2004 at 09:31:40 AM PST

Well I moved my guppies over to the new tank today. I found more fry than I knew of, so that was a little exciting. I only have three full grown guppies, and they are all having a hard time swimming against the current that the filter creates. But all the fry are doing fine. They can swim right through it. Is it possible that they are just resisting because they've never lived in a filtered tank before? Or maybe my filter is too powerful? I don't think it's anything fancy. Do you think they'll adjust, or should I take action? Thanks again!

Truly,
Sail

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Re: The Big Fish Move (none / 0) (#7)
by Geo3383 on Wed May 12, 2004 at 02:22:30 PM PST

Some gups like to play in the current... mine do


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Re: The Big Fish Move (none / 0) (#8)
by miskairal on Thu May 13, 2004 at 01:41:28 AM PST

Ditto Geo,

Mine spend most of their time playing in the fast current and it is definitely their choice. They also often just stay in one place swimming toward the current.

You watch when you add new water - they play under it diving in and out.

You'll be an addict like the rest of us soon :)

miskairal
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I will read the Immediate Help
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Re: The Big Fish Move (none / 0) (#9)
by maggie1270 on Thu May 13, 2004 at 08:28:01 AM PST

That just happened to me this morning!  I did a water change this morning every single guppy had to get their turn on the new water ride!  I swear, one of these times they are going to slam right into the ship!  I'm so nervous about hurting them I keep moving so they don't get hurt!
Maggie
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Re: The Big Fish Move (none / 0) (#10)
by girlysix on Thu May 13, 2004 at 04:01:23 PM PST

Haha! Thanks for all the replies. I'm relieved to hear that he's just playing around, and that he's not the only one. Thanks again!

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Re: The Big Fish Move (none / 0) (#11)
by Angelee on Mon May 17, 2004 at 08:54:13 AM PST

   Mine do the same when I do water changes, they still look a bit perplexed though.  I add the new water one slow glass at water level by the next.  They look at me as if to say "Who turned off the water, we were just getting started?"
"The Rocky Mountain Gupster" ANGELEE
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