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Quarantine tank | 27 comments (27 topical, 0 hidden)

i understand!!! (none / 0) (#6)
by red illuzion on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 04:10:25 AM PST

but i really won't be moving them much around, i bought the three males today, and placed them in the 3gal tank. they will stay in there for at least a month, no less. then they go to the male tank. thanx again, i know moving them adds stress but they won't get moved that often, after i'm done with these three i will put a male and a female in the 3gal tank, for maybe a month or so, and a new pair every month, so each fish won't be moved that often.

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You can set up a q-tank quite quickly with a box (5.00 / 1) (#7)
by unclescott on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 08:12:27 AM PST

or sponge filter, water and expendible plants (Hygro)from an established tank or tanks. If water is in modest supply, use an under water heater, cut the stem of the sponge filter at 5" (I have a cheap pipe cutter for tubing). Just scale medication to half a ten gallon tank. ;)

Even waiting for fish to get used to new water, I can have one up and going in an hour or two - assuming one is in dry dock.

If there was disease in there the previous month you quarrantined fish, you'd do a tear down and sterilization anyway and have to start over. It may be better to let such a tank air dry away from the fish anyway.

Love the term Q-tank BTW.

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thanx u.s. (none / 0) (#8)
by red illuzion on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 04:10:11 PM PST

what's the purpose of the plants in a q-tank?? the purpose of a q-tank is to make sure the new guppies are healthy and disease free right??? if i put them in a tank already established, i don't really need plants do i???

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Plants? Why did i used to have an old easy chair (none / 0) (#9)
by unclescott on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 04:48:56 PM PST

in the fishroom. Why does our family pooch drag a cushion under the dining table. (As GG's Rolling Stones would say, "Gimme Shelter.") ;)

Comfortable, non-threatening environments work as well for fish as people. If you have even been the guest of a medical facility - even the very best of hospitals - as soon as you feel a little better, your living room (however disheveled) is ever so much more comfortable. :)

That was the reason I suggested Najas (guadalupensis?). It is a weed and grows so fast in most livebearer tanks that one can spare some expendable plant material which could be kept in the Q-tank or flushed with the water.

I've used old (non-medicated) Najas for garden mulch. Please never put it in any water system, pond, stream. We have enough exotics around. :)

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ah!!! (none / 0) (#10)
by red illuzion on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 05:07:41 PM PST

ok, so its help them feel better, but it has nothing to do with the nitorogen cycle, or anything of the sort, well i only have plants in my male tank, the other two have platic plants, is it necessary to have live ones??? thanx gain u.s., and sorry for so many q's.

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Red, you are thinking more clearly this morning (none / 0) (#12)
by unclescott on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 05:20:50 PM PST

than I am. A little help in the ammonia/nitrogen consumption department from plants wouldn't hurt. :)

Plastic plants in a q-tank are probably a great idea. They wouldn't fall apart with medication. (Notice how quickly hornwort falls apart in the presence of medicinal dyes! Even Java moss will sometimes die if in a tank with acriflavin long enough.)

They would offer shelter. They don't fall apart as easily and add to nitrogen problems. They can be treated and or cleansed more easily.

For those of us in the "frugal" school, there's even those soapless plastic pot scrubbers which one can rinse and unravel. When tank cleaning time arrives, shake the fry out of the plastic mesh, wad it up and scrub algae. They can even be tosses in the bleach barrel. ;)

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ah!!! (none / 0) (#13)
by red illuzion on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 05:44:56 PM PST

so thats what happens with my hornwort sometimes, it is so nice and green and then this one time it split into a million pieces, but now i know it must of been a medication i used, i'm just glad hornwort grows back very fast, if after a month, there are no visible diseases, is it necessary to clean the tank out, nah, forget it, why risk it, i'll clean it, thanx u.s.

G.A. thanx for your comment too, but the reason why i didn't or don't want live plants is because i don't want to have to have the light on for half the day, electric bill is high as is, don't want to add more to it, not now at least.

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Hornwort will disintegrate in under 20 minutes in (none / 0) (#22)
by unclescott on Fri Dec 12, 2003 at 06:25:45 PM PST

methylene blue! Never thought to take a stop watch to it! :)

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I am always willing to trade plants (none / 0) (#14)
by Scott Lockwood on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 06:12:14 PM PST

for fish. Ship me some interesting fry, and I'll load you up with plants. :-)

"I love to visit PetSmart's Tropical Fish Dept. to see what new diseases are around today." -- inkmaker
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What kind of fry are you interested in?? (none / 0) (#23)
by Angelee on Mon Dec 15, 2003 at 05:01:26 PM PST

You know Santa already brought me my digital camera for Christmas (I musta been good!) and it has a video camera mode too. I put some of my pix at imagestation and will continue to do so. Maybe a video of the fry, huh? I have several different cobras and not sure what Ceasar is (I posted him). Let me know, could always use a few extra plants.
Note to self: learn shipping fish 101
Any pointers anyone?
"The Rocky Mountain Gupster" ANGELEE
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I can help with fish shipping and such (none / 0) (#24)
by Scott Lockwood on Mon Dec 15, 2003 at 07:06:13 PM PST

Where in the world are you at? I'm looking for Green's right now, and green verigated or cobra would be the coolest. :-)

"I love to visit PetSmart's Tropical Fish Dept. to see what new diseases are around today." -- inkmaker
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Green? Got him! (none / 0) (#25)
by Angelee on Tue Dec 16, 2003 at 10:13:36 PM PST

I'm in the Denver metro area, Colorado. Julius (I'll get better pictures of him online), I believe he is a green cobra. The pic up doesn't do him justice, he doesn't like to have his picture taken (go figure huh?). I also have a female who looks suspiciously like a cobra of some sort. Lady is her name. I'll try and get pix of all my cobras up by the end of the week.
"The Rocky Mountain Gupster" ANGELEE
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If you have some fry from this pairing... (none / 0) (#26)
by Scott Lockwood on Tue Dec 16, 2003 at 10:19:50 PM PST

I'd be really happy to swap plants for fish. :-)

"I love to visit PetSmart's Tropical Fish Dept. to see what new diseases are around today." -- inkmaker
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K. Lady had her first batch Dec 6... (none / 0) (#27)
by Angelee on Thu Dec 18, 2003 at 04:11:25 PM PST

I'm not sure what I'm going to get from the first batch, so I'll pair em up and see what happens. (This way I'll be confident it was these two) I think she's still "pregnant" though. Thankfully, she's pretty picky and likes the big Cobras and Ceasar pretty exclusively. She gets testy with the other males. I'll give an update when it happens.
"The Rocky Mountain Gupster" ANGELEE
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Whatcha got in plants for trade? (none / 0) (#15)
by unclescott on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 06:49:35 PM PST

I could trade some a cloud of small Endler's, some Limia melanogaster, odd platys, reject swordtails and a cool Rivulus cylindraceus.

Ha! The green cobra guppies are getting fat, but haven't dropped to my knowledge yet! Maybe crank the room's heat up.

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Ooooh - Green you say? (none / 0) (#16)
by Scott Lockwood on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 07:23:40 PM PST

I have the same plants as last time pretty much, I do have this one new plant. You should come over! The plants are getting so overgrown, I may end up having to either dispose of some soon, or get another tank just to keep them in! :-)

"I love to visit PetSmart's Tropical Fish Dept. to see what new diseases are around today." -- inkmaker
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Go with plan B. (none / 0) (#17)
by unclescott on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 07:25:59 PM PST

I will not tell Reza! ;)

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Heh. I'd have to tell her. (none / 0) (#18)
by Scott Lockwood on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 07:39:26 PM PST

I need more electricity to sucessfully setup anymore tanks!

"I love to visit PetSmart's Tropical Fish Dept. to see what new diseases are around today." -- inkmaker
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Tell her? (none / 0) (#19)
by Reza on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 09:18:39 PM PST

<<GIGGLE>>

It's a good thing that she reads Guppylog to see what's going on.

:-)

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A lot of plants help (none / 0) (#11)
by GuppyAdict on Thu Dec 11, 2003 at 05:20:12 PM PST

with absorbing some of the excess ammonia from your tanks. So having live plants is always a good thing, but not necessary for the nitrogen cycle.

Like UncleScott mentioned, plants also help to establish a natural environment for them and that makes them feel more at home.

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