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Help!Help!Help!!! | 4 comments (4 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
That is frightening! Are you able to keep your (none / 0) (#1)
by unclescott on Sun Nov 16, 2003 at 04:44:58 AM PST

water in containers for a couple of days before changing it into your tank?

Is the new water as warm as the water in the tank?

Is there some odd chance that someone would have accidentally dropped something in the tank? Even copper coins, in quantity, could be a problem.

Is there a change in your municipal water source? Would the water department be putting something else in the water? That has been a problem for some American aquarists.

A quick fix might be to put some Amquel or Start Right or Ammolock in the water. If those -admittedly expensive products - are not familiar to you, they are water conditioners which "fix" ammonia in the water so it releases only slowly. They also chemically "lock up" or bind heavy metals which can be dangerous to fish.

Also, sometimes painting, household cleaning with a strong cleaner or spraying of bug poisons or the positioning of a poisonous piece of material to kill bugs called a "pest strip" will be harmful to guppies.

People have even warned of cigarette smoke. As a non-smoker though, I really don't know of any situations as that happening.

On occasion students or children (or any of us) will wash their hands and leave soap on them. One teacher of 6th graders (students about 11-12 years of age) assured me that soap on their hands was not likely to be an issue. ;)

I don't wish to make light of your dilemma though. Nor do I want to be alarmist. If the problem is not one of water quality, is there anything which could be poisoning your fish. More importantly than the fish of course - if there is something, should it be a concern for your family?



I'm thinking food poisoning... (none / 0) (#2)
by guppygirl on Sun Nov 16, 2003 at 12:37:45 PM PST

If you are pretty sure that the water conditions are not to blame, I would suspect it is something they are eating.  This may also explain why the fish that are eating the dead ones are also getting sick.

You posted a story a while back on a mix that you make for your fish.  Could some of it have become rancid? You mentioned egg yolk, and other ingredients which are fine, if properly stored.

I would stay away from feeding anything that is home made for a while, and do plenty of water changes.  

It may be wise to check your eggs (or other possible sources) to see if they have gone bad before consuming them yourselves.

Keep us posted!!

Take care,
gg

 

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Thanks but... (none / 0) (#3)
by erdemozkan on Mon Nov 17, 2003 at 03:19:07 AM PST

I had said something about egg yolk but din't use it because i thought it could become rancid. I think the real problem is hardness. I use seasoned water but the water where i live is calcareous (limy). I asked for help to UncleScott with email and he adviced me to change water and use water conditioner. I've strted to think extreme situations. The winter has started here. I have to use water heater and the temperature of my tank is stable at about 25 C degrees. The water evaporates and reachs to the cover of the aquarium. (There is a cover on the aquarium which closes 2/3 of the top of the tank) The cover is made of metal. The vapour that touchs the metal (i think it's aluminium)  is condensed and becomes water again. It drops back into the tank. And sunday morning i've had new babies from my big female again.(They're in the same tank) They were about 40. I used "were" because more than half of them are laying dead on the gravel. I hope doing a water change will save the others. I use only TetraMin to feed them. Adults seem healty, the babies are dying. Thanks alot for your comments.

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Metal cover, evaporation, and water changes... (none / 0) (#4)
by guppygirl on Mon Nov 17, 2003 at 12:26:55 PM PST

Hi erdemozkan!

As far as your metal cover goes, can you find/make one out of plastic? And do you even need one?  
Guppies aren't known for their jumping ability.

As far as evaporation goes, it's winter here too, and I can see the effect it's having on my tanks as well.

I also have hard water in my area and an extemely high pH.

I read somewhere that a mistake that is often made by aquarists is that they only refill the evaporated water, and don't do a water change as well.

What this does is actually increase the water's hardness by concentrating the minerals already present, and adding more with the "fresh water".

Something that I found to be true, when I was trying to combat increasing hardness levels in my tanks.

What I do now is, when I see that a tank needs to be "topped off", due to evaporation, I clean the exposed glass of minerals,(sometimes you can see a residue) and syphon out an equal amount of missing water.
So now you are adding back twice the amount of fresh water than what has evaporated.

I have noticed a significant improvement in the tests using this procedure.
Another "guppy gal" that was having a similar problem adopted this method, and is very happy with the outcome as well.

I don't know of a way to remove lyme from water other than by filteration.  Another idea, though it may be expensive is to use distilled, or bottled water for your tanks.

I still recommend changing water out whenever you are fighting evaporation.

Good luck, and keep us posted! :-)
gg

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