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i wrote a story before | 13 comments (13 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

This is news to me. (none / 0) (#1)
by Scott Lockwood on Tue Nov 11, 2003 at 07:44:55 PM PST

Of note here, is that I tested the water from this tank personally, and it was fine. Normal Ph, no bad chemicals, etc. Baffling.

"I love to visit PetSmart's Tropical Fish Dept. to see what new diseases are around today." -- inkmaker

I'd never though about current and guppies but (none / 0) (#2)
by unclescott on Tue Nov 11, 2003 at 10:28:10 PM PST

there have been threads on "mystery deaths" a genus of killifish called Nothobranchius which have suggested that power filters and those small, but beautiful jewels - almost always from small, temporary ponds or shallow little lakes - will just wear themselves out fighting the current and die much earlier than they should. A New Jersey aquarist by the handle of "R.J." has argued fairly persuasively that those fishes will die in tanks with power filters in a matter of days or a few weeks at most.

Design of fishes will often tell us what their preferred habitats are. Long slim fish with large caudal peduncles (the tail where it meets the body) are cruisers and often revel in currents. Take a look at tetras, rainbowfish and some minnows in that context. The ultimate oceanic cruiser is the tuna.

Guppies, especially fancy males who have to work just to keep their veil tales up, aren't built that way. Maybe they can simply get battered by the current if the gallons per hour ratio on the pump are too great.

This is probably a part of the hobby folklore but...
Once heard of a guy who spent "mucho dinero" on a pair of guppies he had long coveted. While watching them adjust to their new home, just after being placed there, that person saw the male guppy shudder, struggle and roll over dead. As near as he could guess, the guppy had a heart attack. Maybe just a fishy campfire story, but it sure does define a born loser. ;)

I wonder, what would be a safe gph would be for a power filter? If power filters are a problem, what would powerheads do?

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Re: I'd never though about current and guppies but (none / 0) (#13)
by helema23 on Tue Jan 30, 2007 at 12:47:00 PM PST

actually many of the newer filters can be ajusted so the flow is slower though i didnt see my fancy male die of the curent nors have the smaller fancy males or females been effected by it the breeder i got thses babies from said to put them in a tank with a high flow!!

Mabey if they are born and raised in calm waters they live longer in calm waters and die if the flow is changed too quickly!!! besides my barges erm i mean larger females are spitting out their food so mabey fry soon? fish haveing fry usually shows the conditions are good!!!! besides in a 45 gallon tank if they dont like the current they can go down like 3 or 4 inches and its not as strong!!!

I would also like to add that in wild guppy studies the calmer pools of watter had less guppies that the semi fast current pools!! mabey oxigen to surface being grater in faster currents play a factor? Or it could be that the faster currents remove amonia and nitrates and nitrites alot faster than the calmer current!!!
helema
i am guppied hear me mew
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changed to a sponge (none / 0) (#5)
by parttimer on Sat Nov 15, 2003 at 03:04:48 PM PST

does anyone think it might be worth a new try to get new fish now? thanks

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This is soo bizarre!!! (none / 0) (#6)
by guppygirl on Sun Nov 16, 2003 at 01:00:33 PM PST

If you and Scott L. have checked the water, and you think it was the current before, with a sponge filter you should be alright to try again I'd say.

One other thing you might want to do, is ask the LFS to give you a reading on their water, and whether they have had many losses recently.

Keep us posted!!

Take care,
gg

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water (guppygirl) (none / 0) (#7)
by parttimer on Mon Nov 17, 2003 at 06:47:01 AM PST

we all have the same water. the only thing i can think of is the filter. thanks. oh by the way, guppygirl i finally got the guppy book by homer mozart. i did notice that my book is recomended by gg. you must have pull in il. lfs.

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I'm confused. (none / 0) (#8)
by guppygirl on Mon Nov 17, 2003 at 11:52:54 AM PST

You noticed that I recommended it on this site?
I don't have any pull in IL LFS that I'm aware of.
Where did you find the book?
Just curious.
:-)

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sorry just kidding (none / 0) (#9)
by parttimer on Mon Nov 17, 2003 at 04:53:14 PM PST

when i first found this site you told me to find the book, then most of the problems i had earlier you answered from the book and said get the book. i still did not listen, until you just about read the whole book.

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Hey parttimer, (none / 0) (#10)
by guppygirl on Tue Nov 18, 2003 at 03:36:32 AM PST

I thought you were pulling my leg.

I also thought you were quite knowledgeable at this point, and didn't think you were still looking for the darn thing.

Anyway, there is always a possibility you could probably gleen some additional knowledge from this book.
(it may come in handy when you think you know it all).
;-)

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teaching my kids (none / 0) (#11)
by parttimer on Tue Nov 18, 2003 at 03:42:46 AM PST

they love the book, and i have you to thank, so thank you.

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That's great!!! (none / 0) (#12)
by guppygirl on Tue Nov 18, 2003 at 03:52:15 AM PST

And, anytime!!
Best of luck with the kids, dad.
gg
:-)

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